This is the FULL parts list for GM's (Tahoe, Suburban, Yukon, Escalade) that DO NOT have the factory back-up camera pre-wired. These are the 4 parts that you need.

1. Back-up camera: GM part# 15173619
2. Back-up camera module: GM part# 10371724
3. Head-unit to camera module harness: GM part# 15921872 or 15859202 (The latter is the old GM part number but is still recognized.)
4. Camera module to back-up camera harness: GM part# 15872094

My understanding is for part# 15921872 (head-unit to camera module harness) a tech from the dealership has to call GM to order this part saying that your radio was stolen or something along those lines. Probably why you can't find this part number on most sites when you do a search. (If you do happen to find it online out there somewhere please post it to this thread.) The other 3 parts on this list as some you know already can be ordered from these two sites; (It's funny, one site might have a better price on one item, but not the other, and vice versa. I will say this though Part Zone Online will do drop ship overnight, while GM Parts Direct as you know takes a bit of time.):

www.GMPartsDirect.com
www.PartsZoneOnline.com

I hope this thread will serve as a somewhat definitive thread on this subject. By the way I have half of this install done already on my truck. I'm just waiting on the two harnesses, and if all goes well it should be plug and play, and I should have the install done sometime by the middle of next week. Until then the disclaimer: Information Deemed Reliable But Not Guaranteed. (Hope to confirm and remove that next week. Ha, ha.)

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You have the same part number for 1 and 2.

Dam, those harness's are expensive. Dare I ask how much you are going to have in everything?

ORIGINAL: biglg

You have the same part number for 1 and 2.

Dam, those harness's are expensive. Dare I ask how much you are going to have in everything?


Good catch. Thanks. Just edited it.

To answer your question though, when everything is said and done, I'm lookin' at around $500 to do the OEM reverse back-up cam. To me it's worth it.

How much did it cost you for all it?

Hey Thanks for all the info. I have everything except that front harness. Radio to the display module. How much do you pay for the front harness 15921872? Also does it plug into the already existing dashboard harness or does this harness replace the dashboard harness. My part guy claims you have to replace the dashboard harness. I'm having problems trying to buy the front harness. Where did you get your radio to display module harness? How much? And will the guy you got it from be able to order more. I need to order this part.

Thanks
Henry

I found some interesting information out today. Our 2007 Navigation units are designed to work with aftermarket cameras, such as the Kenwood camera.

The kenwood camera is about $115 on ebay. All you have to do is get a wire harness/adapter from JPcustoms, they want $25 for the adapter. This sure seems much cheaper and easier than trying to put all factory in! The kenwood also seems like a nice piece.

Check the original post again. There is a second part number for that behind the head-unit harness. That part number is: 15859202 www.partszoneonline.com shows that they have it, but I've been off and on the phone with them trying to verify if it's in stock. I'll update you once I know.

By the way this part may show up on websites out there as a valid part, but it doesn't mean that it's in stock. This part is being held up directly from GM for some reason. Just want to let you know that so if you order you don't think you're getting it the next day. Again I'll update you tomorrow.

ORIGINAL: gambianoca

Hey Thanks for all the info. I have everything except that front harness. Radio to the display module. How much do you pay for the front harness 15921872? Also does it plug into the already existing dashboard harness or does this harness replace the dashboard harness. My part guy claims you have to replace the dashboard harness. I'm having problems trying to buy the front harness. Where did you get your radio to display module harness? How much? And will the guy you got it from be able to order more. I need to order this part.

Thanks
Henry

Hey thanks again. Keep me posted. Like I said I have everything but the radio to display module harness. I also had to order the cover so the camera can fit. The original cover doesnt have the hole for the camera. I brought my truck without the Navi and Backup camera. I did the navi upgrade with no problems, thanks to the guys in this forum. Now I hope I can get the camera working the same way.

Thanks again
Henry

Keep me posted.

You shouldn't have had to order a new "cover" for where the camera goes. All you have do do is punch out that area for the camera or drill the holes for it.

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I didnt know this. Now will I need a special bracket or whats screws? Is there any part # i might need. I have the camera but it didnt come with any screws or bracket.

ORIGINAL: gambianoca

I didnt know this. Now will I need a special bracket or whats screws? Is there any part # i might need. I have the camera but it didnt come with any screws or bracket.


My installers are going to take care of it, I'm not doing it myself. I'm told that is a "punch out" where the camera goes. I too have the camera and yes it doesn't have a bracket. Not sure what it looks like in there, but my guys will just fabricate something and weather seal it when they put it in. Again, I don't believe that you have to order a special piece for that.

Thanks for the info TMW597.

All the parts add up to about $530. Then you have the 1 hour of labor to reprogram the NAV radio to display the camera. That's about $600 total to add a part that would have been a $225 option if ordered from the factory when the car was built.

Does anyone else see the problem here? And, yet some people still wonder why GM, FORD, & CHYSLER are hurting.

I saw on a previous thread that the first round of 3LT's had the wiring harnesses installed but the mid-cycle and later 3LT's did not. Of course I'm in the latter group. Oh, well. For that amount of money, I think I'll try one of the $150 units on ebay that incluce a small monitor before laying out $600. Just another example of how the decision makers at GM screwed up. They should have charged a couple of hundred more for the 3LT and included the wiring harnesses. I wouldn't have known the difference.

I also find it hard to believe that the discount parts houses are charging a couple of hundred per harness. Rediculous.[:@]

tj,

Its easier than your thinking. Just buy a kenwood camera, i believe it is ccd-900. They go for around 115 on ebay. then get a harness from jpcustoms for $25 and your done.

ORIGINAL: tj

Thanks for the info TMW597.

All the parts add up to about $530. Then you have the 1 hour of labor to reprogram the NAV radio to display the camera. That's about $600 total to add a part that would have been a $225 option if ordered from the factory when the car was built.

Does anyone else see the problem here? And, yet some people still wonder why GM, FORD, & CHYSLER are hurting.

I saw on a previous thread that the first round of 3LT's had the wiring harnesses installed but the mid-cycle and later 3LT's did not. Of course I'm in the latter group. Oh, well. For that amount of money, I think I'll try one of the $150 units on ebay that incluce a small monitor before laying out $600. Just another example of how the decision makers at GM screwed up. They should have charged a couple of hundred more for the 3LT and included the wiring harnesses. I wouldn't have known the difference.

I also find it hard to believe that the discount parts houses are charging a couple of hundred per harness. Ridiculous.[:@]


Yep! "That's about $600 total to add a part that would have been a $225 option if ordered from the factory when the car was built." And keep in mind it's a lot more than $225 because you have to have the Navigation option first, which is over $2000.

I know in my case though, the money isn't really a big deal. I just want everything on the truck to be "factory", personal preference.

ORIGINAL: biglg

tj,

Its easier than your thinking. Just buy a kenwood camera, i believe it is ccd-900. They go for around 115 on ebay. then get a harness from jpcustoms for $25 and your done.


This would be cool.;)

So will the camera just come on my NAV/RADIO display when I put the car in reverse? I was under the impression that the module piece provided power to the camera as well as reversed the image so things would be on the correct side of the screen when viewing. Does the ccd-900 flip the image for you and will it come on from the reverse lights?

I'm guessing you still need to have the NAV/RADIO programmed to display this as well. Am I right?

TJ,
Yes it will function just like the factory camera. It will come on the screen when you put the vehicle in reverse. All you need is the adapter from jpcustoms, then your camera plugs into the adapter they give you. This is new technology for the 2007 units, the previous units were not compatible with aftermarket cameras.

I personally dont know much about the Kenwood Camera, just seems to be highly recommended. I havent made this upgrade yet, however I will soon. Call JPcustoms, they are very informative people and will direct you in the right path.

You will have to have dealership tech 2 the addition of the camera so it comes on when the vehicle is in reverse. Good Luck.

ORIGINAL: TMW597


ORIGINAL: gambianoca

I didnt know this. Now will I need a special bracket or whats screws? Is there any part # i might need. I have the camera but it didnt come with any screws or bracket.


My installers are going to take care of it, I'm not doing it myself. I'm told that is a "punch out" where the camera goes. I too have the camera and yes it doesn't have a bracket. Not sure what it looks like in there, but my guys will just fabricate something and weather seal it when they put it in. Again, I don't believe that you have to order a special piece for that.


If you're talking about the factory camera, you'll need to cut the applique for the backup camera. It's not a punch out. Not even close. also you won't need to weather seal the camera as the applique is not sealed in anyway shape or form.

I bought an oem camera to work with my kenwood stereo. my buddies didn't/couldn't get it to work so I ended up buying the kenwood camera wasting all the cash on the factory. But, the kenwood camera actually looks better installed in the applique than the factory. You can barely see it. Cut a square away where the factory camera goes just big enough for the kenwood camera. It looks nice that way.

nilsm,
Do you still have your factory OEM camera? If you want to sell it email or PM me a price. Thanks.

That is correct, the OEM camera does not come with any type of bracket. In doing all of my research on this, I found that unless I'm the actual person behind the computer screen in a GM parts department, no one is going to take the actual time to find these parts for you or me. (Or unless you're friends with someone in the parts department.) At any rate trying to track down the actual wiring harnesses was the biggest pain. I pretty much got the definitive last week when I found out that GM has a part number for one of the harnesses, though they're not actually selling them yet as "spare" parts. Really the only way to get it is to go strip it off of a brand new 07' that has the back-up camera installed on it.

Now back to your bracket, or lack of. What we did to install the OEM back-up camera was cut a little hole in the area for it, made sure it fit nice and snug, then we used this bonding gel to secure it, and to weather it in. It was that simple. If any of the bonding gel squeezed out while securing it, we took a little Q-tip to smooth it out along the edges, or you can wait for it to dry and shave off the excess with a straight edge. (I chose to do the latter because I wanted to make sure that there was a excellent seal. I'll trim off the excess next time I detail the truck.)

So now you're probably thinkin', "Well what about the camera module?" The camera module is now sitting in a box, in my closet. My hypothesis has been (and I think it's been confirmed on this forum) that the only thing the camera module underneath the passenger seat does is convert the 12 volt DC that runs throughout the vehicle, down to 6 volt DC to run the camera. So what we did to get around this was to pick up from Radio Shack a 12 volt to 6 volt power adapter, or DC power regulator if you will. (This is it: 6-Volt Vehicle DC-to-DC Adapter $18.99 (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102591&cp=&pg=2&origkw=12+vol t+plugs&kw=12+volt+plugs&parentPage=search) I then took a 12 volt power port (cigarette lighter) splitter and cut one of the female leads off, and plugged them both together. So now we had an inline solution to replace the camera module. Total cost, less than $25, and it was much better than trying to figure out how much resistance is needed, ohm=X and blah, blah, blah. Everything we needed was all wrapped up in this adaptor.

As you may or may not know the OEM back-up camera comes wired in the "mirror image", so you don't have to worry about flipping the picture or anything there. There are 4 wires that come off of the camera. We cut the plug off of it. Red and black are for the power (red +/black -), so we wired that right to our little adapter, and the other 2 are for the video. From the top of the tailgate we rand the wires into the back headliner with the bundle of all of the other wires, and then down the pillar in the corner on the driver side. We then ran the four wires all the way to the front of the truck, behind the head-unit. Now at this point since I have a GMLockPick 2 (fully automatic) this step was super easy. I put a male plug on the video from the camera and plugged it right into the back-up camera video plug that comes with the GMLockPick 2, and I actually wired the camera's power off of the 12 volt accessory wire that they have on the GMLockPick 2.

I have to tell you the turning point for me with all of this was when I read ZX1100F1's post HERE (http://www.chevroletforum.com/fb.asp?m=15243) on the configuration of all of the pins in the harnesses. I suggest everyone that cares about this stuff read that post and a lot of things should start to make sense to you. It also made me see why electronic savvy people out there make products like the GMLockPick.

Sorry I got off of the subject. So what it comes down to for those that want the OEM camera install, it's going to take a couple of work around parts, and steps, but it will work! Ha, ha. I see my camera now every time I put it in reverse and it's great. I can't wait to hitch up my 29' travel trailer for the first time with it. I have to solo hitch every single time, and with the back up camera it should be a breeze compared to how I do it now. When I had my 03' Expedition, at least I could fold down the 3rd row seats and sit real high in the driver seat ,and look back at the hitch while backing up. I actually had "eyes" on the hitch. The Yukon XL is longer so I can't even do that. I just back up a few inches, get out and go look, back up a few more inches, get out and go look. Back and forth... So again it should be much easier.

In summary how I installed the OEM camera:

OEM camera, mount it in the spot above the license plate by cutting a hole and using adhesive/weather sealant. Cut the plug off the camera and wire up 4 leads. Drill your own holes in the top of the tailgate (You can try to use the existing path that houses all of the tailgate wires for the lights and stuff, but it may be difficult to find space. Probably easier to drill your own.) for you wires and run them all the way to the front of the truck via the driver side paneling, under the seats, door panels, etc. Once it's behind the head unit, wire in the inline "Radio Shack solution" for the power, you'll have to tap into 12 volts somewhere though. And then on harness/plug C-4 use pins six and seven [6 PK 6972 Camera Signal #2 + (UVC) and 7 L-BU 6973 Camera Signal #2 (UVC)] to wire up your video.

The truck is all buttoned up so I can't send you all of the pictures but here are a few. (My truck is super dirty! Gotta' get that detail this week, after it stops raining off and on.)


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Awesome news, TMW597.:) Glad you got it working.

So, with the Lockpick, was it still necessary to cut into pins 6 & 7 on connector C4 or does the Lockpick feed the video in for you? I gathered that you could just connect the camera to 6 & 7 and have a dealer enable the backup camera and it will work. I assume the Lockpick negates the need to have the NAV radio reprogrammed by the dealer, right?

ORIGINAL: tj

Awesom news, TMW597.:) Glad you got it working.

So, with the Lockpick, was it still necessary to cut into pins 6 & 7 on connector C4 or does the Lockpick feed the video in for you? I gathered that you could just connect the camera to 6 & 7 and have a dealer enable the backup camera and it will work. I assume the Lockpick negates the need to have the NAV radio reprogrammed by the dealer, right?


Pins 6 and 7 on the C4 connector are ALWAYS going to be the video in to that head-unit. If you have this plug (see attached picture) all you have to do is wire a female RCA video jack to leads on 6 and 7. It has nothing to do with the GMLockPick or any device that allows you to watch video on the front screen. Again, two separate things. And yes you will have to have the dealership program your head-unit to see the back-up camera. Before you do that though, put your truck in reverse, go to the menu on the nav screen and make sure you have the back up camera option to turn it off and on. If you do and you see a black screen with something along the top that says, "Turn to see off-screen people & traffic." then your unit is already programmed. The only reason you're not seeing anything is because there's no video camera plugged in.

So on the GMLockPick there is already a female RCA plug installed on their harness, so you don't have to wire up anything. So the answer to your first question would be, no it is not necessary. Just plug your camera into it, plug their harness into C4 and you're done. But that's only if you have the GMLockPick or equivalent of. If not you're taking two wires to the brown C4 harness below, to pins 6 and 7. You can order that harness from JP Customs for a couple of bucks I'm sure, but I know that they don't have them in right now. You could also try to get it from the dealer but good luck trying to explain to them the part you need without having a number for that.

Hope that makes sense.

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BRAVO MAESTRO!!!

Job well done.

This Bud's for You!

ORIGINAL: burnsze15

BRAVO MAESTRO!!!

Job well done.

This Bud's for You!


Ha, ha. For me? What did I do?

Okay I have a question. I have 2007 Denali, didn't come with the Navi, or camera, I have the rear dvd player. I followed the instructions on a previous thread and I installed the navi. Went to the dealer and had them program the radio via tech2. Everythings works great. I even have the voice recongiton working. Now i'm in the process of doing the rear camera. I have the camera, module, and thefront harness, which by the way I was able to get from Gm parts direct. When i was looking today at thefront harness the colors on the harnessis completely different from what I have. I mean every wire is a different color. My question is my harness that came from factory has all 4 plugs for the back of the radio. Does anyone know if I have all 4 plugs for the back of the radio, do I still need to swap the front radio harness? It looks the same except that the colors on the wire harness are different. When I first put my navi radio on I had the rear camera option on the navi. Now i don't because the dealer most of lock it. Your help would be really appreciated. Maybe someone can lookup the tahoe front harness and the Denali to see if its the same. Thanks

Okay I have a question. I have 2007 Denali, didn't come with the Navi, or camera, I have the rear dvd player. I followed the instructions on a previous thread and I installed the navi. Went to the dealer and had them program the radio via tech2. When I first put my navi radio on I had the rear camera option on the navi. Now i don't because the dealer most of lock it.

If you were able to see the reverse camera screen when you first installed your navigation head-unit, you shouldn't have even taken it to the dealership to do the Tech 2. (That's something you do AFTER you have your camera and everything installed.)

Everythings works great. I even have the voice recongiton working.

I am curious though on the voice recognition, is this something that you did or did the dealership do it for you?

Now i'm in the process of doing the rear camera. I have the camera, module, and thefront harness, which by the way I was able to get from Gm parts direct. When i was looking today at thefront harness the colors on the harnessis completely different from what I have. I mean every wire is a different color. My question is my harness that came from factory has all 4 plugs for the back of the radio. Does anyone know if I have all 4 plugs for the back of the radio, do I still need to swap the front radio harness? It looks the same except that the colors on the wire harness are different. Your help would be really appreciated. Maybe someone can lookup the tahoe front harness and the Denali to see if its the same. Thanks

Remember in my post I bypassed having to use the factory harness to the camera module, as well as bypassing the camera module itself. I haven't even seen what that harness looks like. And yes the Tahoe and the Denali are both going to be the same. (It might help if you posted pictures on what you're trying to explain.)

So now my question to you is how are you planning to wire your camera up if you don't have the harness that runs from the camera to the module?

For anyone else out there attempting to do this, my advice is save your money and frustration with trying to locate the harnesses and use the "bypass" application that I posted. Take it for what it's worth.

When i had the Tech II run on mine, they turned off the camera as well. Why? I dunno. Now I have to have them turn it back on again.

Gambianoco, you mention the voice recognition works. So you can hold the mute button on the steering wheel and say commands tothe unit and it works?

Burnsze, If you had tech II done without the camera they will turn it off. This prevents a black screen coming on everytime you put it in reverse without the camera! If you had planned to get a camera you probably should have told them to have leave it on.

I just had mine tech II and I am sure I will add a camera some day, however they shut mine off as well for the time being!

Get your Tech 2 done after all of your stuff is done and installed!!!! Don't tell the techs anything they don't need to know or else you're going to blow their heads up. Most of them are not smart enough to handle it. They're robots, Tech 2 machine gives them a prompt about the reverse camera, they get out of the truck, go look in the back, no camera. What do they do? Tell the machine, no camera. Either speak up and tell them to leave it on, or wait until everything is done, which is the easiest to do.

Yeah my voice recongition works. I have a 2007 denali. Maybe it was shipped with the harness.

Okay the front harness I have is actually the whole front dashboard harness. The colors on my existing harness and the one I purchased are completely different. WhenI look at the navi radio plus they are complete different colors. Maybe because I have a Denali. I have all for plus for the navi radio from factory. Alright whats the best way for me to do this. I will be doing it on Sat. I have the backup camera, GMlockpick2, the oem module, the front radio harness. Please give me detail instructions, diagram or colors of the wires. Your help is really appreciated. Sorry to be a pain. I did the navi, but the backup camera is really starting to annoy me. Also if i use the lockpick, do i still need to have the dealer enable the fea?

Thanks

Any updates? I have read thru this post. I am not going to put the Lockpick harness in it, but I am adding the camera. It is the only thing I am missing. I have NAV, rear video, etc....just missed the camera

My thougths - get the camera, radio shack converter, and wire into pin 6 and 7 as stated before. The power will come from another source. Then I will get the GM to unlock the camera. Am I over looking anything?

It's all pretty much the same. Are you using the OEM camera from GM?

I am going to use the OEM camera. I can simply splice the two video feeds into the harness correct?

That is correct.

All I got to say, is a I installed a Kenwood 900 today! YEEEEHAAAAWWW. :), what do you think about dem apples Fred!

LOL!!! So you did it huh!!! Post up some pictures kid!!!!!!

Yeah, i did it through out the day today! I am visiting some family right now. I will get some pics some time, but it looks very similar to konasmrz's install!

Just be glad you didnt do it TMW. It was a pain in the azz!

Yeah, I didn't want to mess with that. I'm glad you got it all hooked up though. You didn't waste any time, unlike me with that frickin' VSS wire. Ha, ha.

Yeah, I wanted to get it done. I started abou 10 AM, and messed with it throughout the day. I was done about 4. I didnt work straight through. ONly ran into a few issues. I broke a few clips, no biggie. The rear side paneling was a PAIN in the butt to get back on. That was probably the biggest struggle. I ended up putting the camer right in the middle of the area we had talked about. I dont think it looks as good installed as the factory one. It hangs down to low and is very visible! I wish I would have went OEM I think. Anyways, it feels nice it is done. But it was A lot of work and I would not recommend it to just anyone! You could have some serious issues if you dont know a little about wiring and electronic installation. But removing the paneling pieces is probably the most difficult, that and working on the actual tailgate area. Kind of a pain in the rear. I am just glad it is done, and I was succesful without any big issues!

That's all good! Now for the pictures maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!

ORIGINAL: biglg

All I got to say, is a I installed a Kenwood 900 today! YEEEEHAAAAWWW. :), what do you think about dem apples Fred!


Does the picture show up well at night? I was wondering if this camera had a low Lux rating.

I had that same question. However, I just checked it out a few minutes ago. It works great in the dark as well. I guess your reverse tail lights produce enought light!

TMW, you dont believe me that I did the install? HAHA

ORIGINAL: biglg

TMW, you dont believe me that I did the install? HAHA


biglg.....Where & how did you mount this camera? I'm looking at this one too. Do you know if it is weather-proof?

http://www.chevroletforum.com/m_15129/tm.htm

I have about 10 pictures there. I dont know about weatherproof, but I would imagine so. It is made to be installed on the outside of a vehicle so I would think it would be weatherproof.

Ok, I am in the mist of installing the camera. Couple of questions:

On the brown plug (C4) I only have 3 wires:
5 D-GN/WH 817 Vehicle Speed Signal (UVC)
6 PK 6972 Camera Signal #2 + (UVC)
7 L-BU 6973 Camera Signal #2 (UVC)

There are no other wires. Can I simply cut wire 6 and 7 and wire them into the camera? Do they have any other function anywhere else?

Also, where are you guys wiring the camera power leads to? I noticed a powerplug on the passenger side in the cargo area that I was thinking about using. I also thought about tying into the reverse lights so the camera is only powered when in reverse. Any comments?

ORIGINAL: chip

Ok, I am in the mist of installing the camera. Couple of questions:

On the brown plug (C4) I only have 3 wires:
5 D-GN/WH 817 Vehicle Speed Signal (UVC)
6 PK 6972 Camera Signal #2 + (UVC)
7 L-BU 6973 Camera Signal #2 (UVC)

There are no other wires. Can I simply cut wire 6 and 7 and wire them into the camera? Do they have any other function anywhere else?

Also, where are you guys wiring the camera power leads to? I noticed a powerplug on the passenger side in the cargo area that I was thinking about using. I also thought about tying into the reverse lights so the camera is only powered when in reverse. Any comments?


Yes you can hardwire right to the 6 and 7 pins for the video if you'd like. Not sure what to tell you on the power question.

ORIGINAL: chip

Ok, I am in the mist of installing the camera. Couple of questions:

On the brown plug (C4) I only have 3 wires:
5 D-GN/WH 817 Vehicle Speed Signal (UVC)
6 PK 6972 Camera Signal #2 + (UVC)
7 L-BU 6973 Camera Signal #2 (UVC)

There are no other wires. Can I simply cut wire 6 and 7 and wire them into the camera? Do they have any other function anywhere else?

Also, where are you guys wiring the camera power leads to? I noticed a powerplug on the passenger side in the cargo area that I was thinking about using. I also thought about tying into the reverse lights so the camera is only powered when in reverse. Any comments?


Read through this, it should help! http://www.chevroletforum.com/m_15129/tm.htm

I am almost done. All wires are run and connectors are put on them. However, does it make a difference on how the polarity of the video feed is hooked up? If so, which is the postive video feed. I have the power right.

For reference:
Red - positive 6v
black - negative 6v
yellow - ??
white - ??

FYI - I ran the power for the camera off the reverse lights and put the 12v-6b converter behind the passenger side trim piece above the rear tail light (inside). Side note - the rear tail lights are a PITA to get off.

ORIGINAL: chip

I am almost done. All wires are run and connectors are put on them. However, does it make a difference on how the polarity of the video feed is hooked up? If so, which is the postive video feed. I have the power right.

For reference:
Red - positive 6v
black - negative 6v
yellow - ??
white - ??

FYI - I ran the power for the camera off the reverse lights and put the 12v-6b converter behind the passenger side trim piece above the rear tail light (inside). Side note - the rear tail lights are a PITA to get off.


Sounds like you're all over it. The polarity does matter, and here's the beautiful thing with video. It doesn't matter if you reverse it. Try it both ways, when the video pops up you got it. You won't hurt anything if you reverse it. My assumption is yellow + and white for -.

Can anyone help me? http://www.chevroletforum.com/m_19270/tm.htm

It is all up in working. I used the reverse lights to power the camera so it was not on all the time. Thanks for the help! Got the dealer to program it today and everything works like you said!

That's all good dude!!!

good post. I am starting this soon

I have a question that does not have to do with this topic. I hope someone can help. I broke my cluster on my 07 Tahoe installing radio equipment.. I found a guy on e-bay that sells them and he says that it is a plug and play unit and that I don't need to worry about the mileage. I know that on the older Tahoes the mileage was counted on the computer as well as the cluster. Does anyone know? If so does it have to be programmed by the dealer to work?

You might start your own thread. You will probably get a faster more reliable response!

so you guys know, to install factory back up camera, you don't have to buy camera module .
I have a fix for it. it cost me only $10 to make it.
and for those who already have a nav radio from factory and want to add a camera. you don't even have to take your nav radio out. it's partialy prewired. You can find that pre wired connector at passenger side kick panel

So are you going to share the information with everyone on the forum?

SOme more info, more pics would be helpful! Do you buy Nav units off ebay? Your name is familar to someone I sold a nav unit!

ORIGINAL: TMW597

So are you going to share the information with everyone on the forum?


Of course I will share.
I install those cameras and Nav Radio for over a dozen GMC/Chevy dealers in So cal. any way it was a little pain in a ass to buy those camera module/connectors/making harnesses, so I did a little tests. basicaly those modules all they do is convert 12V into 6V for camera supply voltage.So I went to one of electronics surrplus store and bought (I was lucky) over 100DC to DC inverters that convert from 12 to 6 volts. and they cost me $10 a piece. I modifyed them a little, and they work fine.I was using them since 07 models came out, no problems so far. I also bought special 4 conductor cable with shield in it and the way it's made, very easy to ran and good quality. next time when I'll install one of those cameras, I'll take some pics for you guys. I also have brown connectors and pins(original GM made) for rear view camera and VSS that plugs into the radio. paid $12 for it . I can share some of those as well.

ORIGINAL: biglg

SOme more info, more pics would be helpful! Do you buy Nav units off ebay? Your name is familar to someone I sold a nav unit!


small world. I do buy those navs of the ebay, when I'm short with the ones I usualy buy from GM distributor

Gmgeek,
Since I hooked you up with a great price on the OEM nav! WHy dont you hook me up with the GM camera and all the little goodies to make it work??????????

I'll hook you up, no problem.
so did you ever get your self another nav ?

This dude is telling us, what I told this forum in this post: http://www.chevroletforum.com/fb.asp?m=15578

ORIGINAL: TMW597

This dude is telling us, what I told this forum in this post: http://www.chevroletforum.com/fb.asp?m=15578


I tell you this. I worked on 07 vehicles, before you even test drove one. Before they were even available for sale, I 've been preloading those cameras in the vehicles.
I just found this forum resently, and did not read all threads yet.
so instead of be a hater, just try to be nice to a new members

Hey what's up man....So your in So Cal ? So am I . I might need your services.How can I contact you.

ORIGINAL: c21sam

Hey what's up man....So your in So Cal ? So am I . I might need your services.How can I contact you.


you can call me if you want
858-213-1080

K im curious about something...My 2007 Tahoe came with factory installed nav but no back up camera. when i put the truck in reverse the screen on the nav doesnt change. Now on my 2007 Avalanche I just installed myself the factory nav unit and when I shift into reverse the screen goes black and says check my surroundings....like it sees a camera is connected. Why is this? Does this mean I can plug the OEM cam into my avalanche nav without having to order this aditonal wiring? both vehciles have the rear dvd oem system too if that matters. Thanks.

One HU has the camera option turned on, the other HU doesnt have the option turned on.

bummer, is that all it is. I was all stoked thinking my avalanche was set up for the cam. So has anyone figured out if there is a plug and play kit for these nav units without spending a few hundred for the oem wiring, relays and cam? I cant see spending 500+ on a back up cam set up BUT my avalanche is lifted 10" so I cant see anything behind me!

ORIGINAL: EliteDetailOC
I cant see spending 500+ on a back up cam set up BUT my avalanche is lifted 10" so I cant see anything behind me!


well, you have a few options to be under $200 and have a back up camera
easyest solution would be lisence plate camera, and just wire it to your factory nav radio. I assume that you already have a brown connector installed. or you can buy flash mount type camera ( I've seen them on eBay for like $50) and mountin the same place where factory one would go. a little more work then with a license plate one, but you'll get a better view

what is this brown connector your speaking of? I am very mechanically incline so i wont have a problem if i need to run wires. I just need to know what it takes to get it all hooked up, preferably without chopping any of the factory wiring up. I would prefer a plug and play set up. Thanks

I hope we are talking about same vehicle (your Avalanche)
from what you said, you installed nav radio your self, so I assume you installe connector as well for your VSS wire connection. same connector take camera input signal, so all you got to do is connect your aftermarket video camera signal wire into that connector, and connect power wire of your camera to positive sourse, run wires and you done.

I installed a Kenwood CCD-900. I got it off ebay for around $135 shipped and purchaed a connector from www.jpcustoms.com (http://www.jpcustoms.com). I think I had about 150-160 in it total, and of course my labor.

ORIGINAL: EliteDetailOC

what is this brown connector your speaking of? I am very mechanically incline so i wont have a problem if i need to run wires. I just need to know what it takes to get it all hooked up, preferably without chopping any of the factory wiring up. I would prefer a plug and play set up. Thanks


There is a thread with step by step insructions on the kenwood installation. Search for a thread titled something like "canyou make heads or tails of this". You should find everything you need in that post!

perfect! thanks guys. and yes I got the wire kit from JP for the navi install. So I need to order another wire kit for the camera deal? Thanks again, Im going to check into the kenwood 900 cam. Hopefully i can get something i can mount like the OEM unit, it looks clean and pretty well hidden.

Elite,
Check this link out, http://www.chevroletforum.com/m_15129/tm.htm. If you tell JP what you are doing, installing the kenwood ccd-900 they will get you what you need!If you have the C3 connector in the back of your radio, you dont need another connector. What you need is an RCA that has two wires with the wire pins connected. You will put the 2 wire pins from the RCA into the harness plug. Then you will run the RCA from the camera box (included with the kenwood) to the RCA you get from JP customs. This will provide the video feed! There should be pics of the camera and all the details at the link above. Good luck and let us know if you have any questions.

thanks Big. I will call them today to see about ordering the RCA kit for the back up install. I found the back up cam on ebay for 118.00 new. wonder how much this wire kit is from JP to hook it all up, will soon find out

I have two questions--

1) Does the nav radio need to be dealer flashed after installing the Kenwood CCD-900?

2) Can the Kenwood camera "see" a trailer ball so you can back up and stop directly under the trailer tongue?

Thanks

For those that may be interested I did have to have the radio flashed for the back-up camera. The tech that originally did the flash after I installed the nav radio said that he looked for a camera in the RPO codes in the glovebox and that is what they go by. So anybody thinking they may want to add a camera later should tell the dealer to also flash it for the camerea even though you don't have one, and yes they CAN do it without the camera hooked up as my camera is not installed yet and the camera function in the nav radio works fine now!
Here is the info from the dealer computer -- the nav unit with no camera was originally flashed with the code #15260990 which means no camera and was then flashed to code #15260994 which is "For Avalanche/Escalade EXT with RPO UVC". This was for the Bose with Bose upgraded speaker package and no rear DVD/Entertainment system.

Here is an off the wall question, but has anyone done an install on an OEM reverse back-up camera WITHOUT having the Nav/DVD unit? I don't have a need for the Nav/DVD unit but would really like to have the back-up camera to be able to hook our boat up this summer. Is it possible to hook up an external screen somewhere on the rearview mirror or near the radio?Any ideas here?

I would like to know this also. I am going to replace my factory radio with an aftermarket touch sceen. The radio is compatible with a camera. I want to know if the factory camera can just plug into it.

Thought I would post this here too......

Ok guys, I have read and stuied every thread on this topic and also ZX's topics....... :)

07 Hoe - LT

I have - 15940102 - Which is the new replacement for the 66 model.
The - 15948136 - Which is the read DVD unit..
The -Gen 3 Lock Pick - http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AAAQ%3 AUS%3A1&viewitem=&item=200102115703 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AAAQ%3 AUS%3A1&viewitem=&item=200102115703)

My question is - 15921872 is the harness that goes from the head unit (http://www.chevroletforum.com/m_15129/mpage_14/key_/tm.htm#) to the rear DVD, I think? ZX? biglg? TMW??
Maybe it is already in the roof liner???

I think that is the only part I am missing.....

I Cannot WAIT to try this and all of your great help is much appreciated.. MUCH appreciated.

I too will send pictures once I get this sucker going.... I am sure you will hear questions from me before SUCCESS.

Thanks again guys, This forums rocks.

Matt

For those who wants to get a little taste of what it takes to install factory back up camera. here is a little info for you guys.

http://gmgeek.com/files/07_back_up_camera_install.pdf

I went with the aftermaket variety... Much cheaper, easier and just as effective

whats easier, installing the backup camera with or without a gen3 lockpick??

ORIGINAL: CaMs

whats easier, installing the backup camera with or without a gen3 lockpick??


anyone??

07HOE2653V8 - care to share a part list and what you did to get this going

with the factory camera, must the head unit be reflashed.

You will need TEC 2 if the HU was not coded for Rear Camera... OEM that is, with the coastaltech locpik.. It has an aux vid in to use. But does not switch off and on with the truck in reverse.

Hope that makes sense.

Matt

Guys I need some help...This thread has got me started with my current project...I used your guide and installed an OEM camera on my GMC Acadia...
Yes I said GMC Acadia....please don't hate...
The good news your knowledge and ideas have really inspired me...I completed my camera install and it works beautifully....
My question is to get the dealer to reflash my NAV unit....

I have a 2007. In 2007 the backup camera was NOT an option. It only became an option in 08....
With the TIS2000/Tech2 software, can this still be done or accessed? I heard that the Tech2 reads your VIN number. If this is the case, it will not give a UVC camera option???
I need to change the year of my car to an 08' or I need to enter the VIN manually... Anyone with expertise on this can advise me what to do....I have been fighting my dealer just to even try this at all...
Thanks for your time
_Mal_

Bravoooooooooo guys!!

I have one question...

Does the OEM camera still uses 4 wires as the Kenwood?? If yes, what are the colors for these wires...

As my personal guess, if i want to use the OEM camera, there will be four wires... One is power (with the 12V/ 6volt coverter), ground, and the 2 wires that will goes all the way up to the head unit Connector C4 pin number6 and 7.. Am i right?? If yes, does any one know the wire colors for the OEM camera?

To my understanding, i don't need any GM harness.. I just can build my own harness with the converter... Right??

Thanks in advanced!
Mish

i am installing a license plate camera, and am curious as to where to find the reverse wire is located inside the cabin? i dont really want to run an extra from the rear if i dont have too.


Thanks


Troy

ORIGINAL: gm_geek

For those who wants to get a little taste of what it takes to install factory back up camera. here is a little info for you guys.

http://gmgeek.com/files/07_back_up_camera_install.pdf


Any one has this file??

I need some pics to see how to remove the gate panel...

ORIGINAL: EZname

ORIGINAL: gm_geek

For those who wants to get a little taste of what it takes to install factory back up camera. here is a little info for you guys.

http://gmgeek.com/files/07_back_up_camera_install.pdf


Any one has this file??

I need some pics to see how to remove the gate panel...


Welcome to the Tahoe forum. You might try sending a PM to gmgeek.

Hi guys,

First, i want to thank everyone in this forum!

I went to buy the Kenwood CCD-900 camera.. It seems that Kenwood discontinued this camera and Kenwood released a newer camera (CCD-2000 (http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=kenwood+ca mera&category0=)).. I was able to compare them side by side... The 2000 is smaller and the control is much smaller as well... I didn't try it yet since i'm waiting for the JP wire but i will keep you guys updated! Here is the camera after many hours of fun work!

Here is a picture:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2156/2090280691_7fc5cddbf4_o.jpg



Also, i was wondering if GM sell the OEM camera braket by it self (Without the camera)... Look at this picture, any one can help?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2085/2090280683_c942791f72_o.jpg





Third question, Does anyone know the P/N for this connector and the P/N for the wires?
http://www.chevroletforum.com/upfiles/5036/3106EC0D54B7487AB52DA82F5602E08B.jpg

RE: your question about a separate OEM brkt, you should check with your parts counter guy. He can look it up very easily.

ORIGINAL: EZname

Hi guys,

First, i want to thank everyone in this forum!

I went to buy the Kenwood CCD-900 camera.. It seems that Kenwood discontinued this camera and Kenwood released a newer camera (CCD-2000 (http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=kenwood+ca mera&category0=)).. I was able to compare them side by side... The 2000 is smaller and the control is much smaller as well... I didn't try it yet since i'm waiting for the JP wire but i will keep you guys updated! Here is the camera after many hours of fun work!

Here is a picture:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2156/2090280691_7fc5cddbf4_o.jpg



Also, i was wondering if GM sell the OEM camera braket by it self (Without the camera)... Look at this picture, any one can help?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2085/2090280683_c942791f72_o.jpg





Third question, Does anyone know the P/N for this connector and the P/N for the wires?
http://www.chevroletforum.com/upfiles/5036/3106EC0D54B7487AB52DA82F5602E08B.jpg


Email your pic to gmpartsdirect.com. They should be able to give you the part numbers

ORIGINAL: EZname
Here is a picture:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2156/2090280691_7fc5cddbf4_o.jpg






Be sure to seal the hole up to keep the weather and your exhaust from entering your vehicle.

I am going to post this here because I know there are a lot of subscribers to this thread and I need a quick answer so I can get the install on its way.

Can someone provide some insight on where I can wire my rear view camera up to a good power and ground source in the rear of the vehicle? It can be in the rear hatch, or somewhere on the right side rear interior of the vehicle.

Would the aux outlet on the right rear hatch work? I dont know if it is constant or what not, nor do I know if it needs to be constant. But if someone can provide some insight that would make the install a lot quicker and easier if I can use it.

I used the HVAC power and ground last time and would like to avoid running hthe wires all the way to the dash. Thanks.

I just TRIED to install the CCD-2000 on my tahoe. I had no problems with the Kenwood ccd-900, however the ccd-2000 is giving me all kinds of trouble.

I have it completely installed. HOwever, on the screen while in reverse I get a black screen, but not the black screen as if there is no camera. It is a black screen with lines through it. The lines arent constant, they move around, kind of like squigly lines that go up and down the screen. I have checked every connection multiple times. I cant find a thing wrong.

I did use GMGeeks idea of using the pink and blue wire behind the passenger kick panel. But other than that it is the same install as my last ccd-900.

Does anyone have any ideas why I am not getting a picture? Could it be the camera itself? What about the video box? Damn this is aggrevating. I had it all installed in a little over an hour. I have spend 4 hours trying to figure out why the hell i am not getting a picture. Or should I say a clear picture. Again, the screen is different from just the sold black screen when no camera is installed and the nav camera option is turned on. This is more of a fuzzy screen.

I have a 2007 Yukon XL Denali with Navigation, Rear seat entertainment, and Bose. (Everything stock) I am doing the stock rear view camera set-up with:
1. Back-up camera: GM part# 15173619
2. Back-up camera module: GM part# 10371724
3. Head-unit to camera module harness: GM part# 15921872
4. Camera module to back-up camera harness: GM part# 25776555 (NEW)

I want to know if the Camera module to back-up camera is the correct harness for the Denali XL models. I don't want to buy it and then have it be the wrong one or it runs short.
Also, are the rest of the part numbers correct?
I am ordering everything from www.partszoneonline.com

biglg, here is a couple of tests that I would perform:
- Connect the camera to any device that accepts RCA inputs
- connect a digital cameran with RCA output to the rearview connection, that should tell you if you can get something on your screen
- you may also test the power source, if the camera is not getting enough power, you will not get picutre

I have just completed the install of my Nav radio using harness from JPcustom. They sent me the harness that also accepts an RCA input, which i can use for a rearview camera. I would like to install the camera, here are some questions:
- Which camera would you recommend?
- How difficult is the installation give that I have RCA Input?
- would work best for use with the Tahoe that can be easily installed?
- Does anyone have the installation steps documented? I'm mostly concerned on how to snake the wires from the hatch to the inside of the car, how to sanke from the rear to the front, and lastly, where do I get power for the camera?

i dont mind using best buy or circuit city for the installation, they charge only $45 for the entire installation. Does anyone have any experience with them?

You feedback is appreciates.

ORIGINAL: TMW597

This is the FULL parts list for GM's (Tahoe, Suburban, Yukon, Escalade) that DO NOT have the factory back-up camera pre-wired. These are the 4 parts that you need.

1. Back-up camera: GM part# 15173619
2. Back-up camera module: GM part# 10371724
3. Head-unit to camera module harness: GM part# 15921872 or 15859202 (The latter is the old GM part number but is still recognized.)
4. Camera module to back-up camera harness: GM part# 15872094

My understanding is for part# 15921872 (head-unit to camera module harness) a tech from the dealership has to call GM to order this part saying that your radio was stolen or something along those lines. Probably why you can't find this part number on most sites when you do a search. (If you do happen to find it online out there somewhere please post it to this thread.) The other 3 parts on this list as some you know already can be ordered from these two sites; (It's funny, one site might have a better price on one item, but not the other, and vice versa. I will say this though Part Zone Online will do drop ship overnight, while GM Parts Direct as you know takes a bit of time.):

www.GMPartsDirect.com (http://www.GMPartsDirect.com)
www.PartsZoneOnline.com (http://www.PartsZoneOnline.com)

I hope this thread will serve as a somewhat definitive thread on this subject. By the way I have half of this install done already on my truck. I'm just waiting on the two harnesses, and if all goes well it should be plug and play, and I should have the install done sometime by the middle of next week. Until then the disclaimer: Information Deemed Reliable But Not Guaranteed. (Hope to confirm and remove that next week. Ha, ha.)

local://upfiles/5036/C68C95C01C5F4C76BAD236488C73D5C9.jpg


Hmmm, I'm not sure if that kind of truck part (http://www.car-stuff.com) that you are looking for is available online... Well, how is your truck now bro??

I love my ride, its awesome. I read this entire forum and primarly interrested in CCD camera. I'm not really interested in the OEM cam. I also read that the installation is not very straight forward, soI wanted to get opinions on where to get it done. Or if you recommend I do it myself, then what are the steps to snake the wires and take the panels down.

Hi digitalgeek,

there are many threads on the camera install, including the install of the ccd-900 which is the same set up as the ccd-2000. Just search those parts in the search option on this forum under the Tahoe section.

Secondly, you have already answered your question about how and if you should install it. If you can find someone to install it for $45 i wouldnt even work as hard or as much as opening the camera box to look at it. Pay the $45 with a big :).

Once you find out that it isnt going to be only $45 for the ccd-2000 install then I would complete the search step above and see if it is something you can handle. I have installed 2 of them now and still dont get excited about doing it.

A few questions since my last camerainstall.

1. I know that the lockpick and other devices allow you to turn the camera on the screen at any time while driving, not just while in reverse. To do so I assume this has to be hooked up to constant power rather than retained accessory power. So, what did you use for the constant power/ground connections?

2. If you used constant power/ground, does it have an effect or rundown of the battery, or is it only on while the vehicle is actually running?

3. If you used a constant power I assume the connection of the reverse tail light wire to the power/hot reverse tail light wire isnt needed? Only a power/ground to a constant so the camera is always on? Then when putting the vehicle in reverse it puts the image on the screen?

4. Lastly, if you used retained accessory power what power and ground did you use?

I love my ride, its awesome. I read this entire forum and primarly interrested in CCD camera. I'm not really interested in the OEM cam. I also read that the installation is not very straight forward, soI wanted to get opinions on where to get it done. Or if you recommend I do it myself, then what are the steps to snake the wires and take the panels down.
this ccd camera truly is interesting..but I have to test it first with my car to know if its compatible with my chevy oem parts (http://www.racepages.com/replacement/)..

Shawn I have a 09 Silverado 1500. With nav in the dash What part #s do I need for a full install. Including the handle that the camera is held in at the tailgate Thanks