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Old March 11th, 2016, 12:35 AM
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Thanks for all your help will post what I get in the morning. What's a good place to get all the schematics and pin out diagrams for my car?
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I tried to send you a diagram but it has to may characters and the site won't post it.


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Originally Posted by tech2
what you did was split the system in half. We now know the side that ohmed 120 is all good. the open wiring/bad module is somewhere in the other half.


the daisy chain runs in this order...from the dlc to the psm, to the bcm to thevcim to the ebcm
the problem is in that half of the bus








next we go to the next module and do the same thing and repeat until the open leg is found. reconnect the ebcm and unplug the vcim

the pins for the oher modules are


vcim pins 2, 3 then 8, 9
bcm- which contains one of the 120 ohm terminating resistors. connector c2 pins 1, 19 and 2, 20

power steering module pins 4, 5 and 1, 2
dlc -where you first started pins 14, 6



post the results
-For the vcim both sets of pins (had to go through the back of the connector, where the wires go in, my probes wouldnt fit in the connector holes) I got right around 120 ohms.
-120 for both 1,19 and 2,20 on the bcm
- OL on 1,2. 120 on 4,5 at the power steering module.
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something does not seem right. the results contradict themselves. plug everything back in but he vcim connectors and recheck the vcim.


your are removing the connector from the module while doing the test and testing at the connectors not the modules?


below is a handwritten diagram of the circuit.
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Old March 11th, 2016, 9:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tech2
something does not seem right. the results contradict themselves. plug everything back in but he vcim connectors and recheck the vcim.


your are removing the connector from the module while doing the test and testing at the connectors not the modules?


below is a handwritten diagram of the circuit.
Correct. let me re test the 1,2 pins for the power steering. Im having troubles making contact with the wires and my test probes. I just paid for a subscription to alldata so at least now I have most of the diagrams I need.
Old March 11th, 2016, 9:59 PM
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ok, we can figure this out.
can you post an alldata picture of the computer data line diagram...I'm sure mine is better.


all data may have some gmlan diagnostics too.
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Im going crazy. Everything is plugged in. Now im getting 60 ohms at the dlc, pins 6,14. I positively have an open loop at pins 1,2 at the power steering module connector though. whick makes no sense because those are the same wires. I still have 120 ohms at 4,5 on the power steering.

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you will have a open loop at pin 1&2 at the epsm as it leads back to the dlc.


can you confirm what all data says for which modules house the 120 ohm terminating resistors? My info says its the pcm and bcm. maybe its the epsm and pcm?


if your getting 60ohms...does it now start?
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She just fired up!



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