2015 Tahoe Keyless?
August 27th, 2015, 8:00 AM
#1
August 27th, 2015, 11:39 AM
#3
True
True, keyless is a misnomer.
Why don't gas cars shut off when your butt leaves the seat or 10 min later?
If no one is in the driver's seat... is it really safe to leave the car on? (13 deaths later, I'm going to say... maybe not)
Why don't gas cars shut off when your butt leaves the seat or 10 min later?
If no one is in the driver's seat... is it really safe to leave the car on? (13 deaths later, I'm going to say... maybe not)
August 27th, 2015, 12:19 PM
#5
Even with me sitting in the driver's seat while idling, my '15 Taurus will try to shut down after about 10 minutes.
It gives me a message, "Engine will shut down in 60 seconds. Press OK to cancel shut down."
Once I cancel that, it seems like it will idle until I turn it off. Longest I've had it idling was 30 minutes on a very cold day last winter.
It gives me a message, "Engine will shut down in 60 seconds. Press OK to cancel shut down."
Once I cancel that, it seems like it will idle until I turn it off. Longest I've had it idling was 30 minutes on a very cold day last winter.
August 27th, 2015, 1:46 PM
#7
35,000 people die every year in their cars. While I'm not trying to minimize when people lose their lives....thirteen? Really?
Right in the article, it states that over 400 people die of CO poisoning every year.
Where do you draw the line in regards to mandating features in cars? One life? Ten? One hundred? One thousand?
If every car was built like a NASCAR race car, injuries and fatalities in crashes would go way down. But I don't think a lot of folks want to pay $150,000 for their grocery getter.
It's always going to come down to economics. Like it or not, we're going to assign values to peoples' lives and make decisions. It can't all be unicorns and rainbows
Right in the article, it states that over 400 people die of CO poisoning every year.
Where do you draw the line in regards to mandating features in cars? One life? Ten? One hundred? One thousand?
If every car was built like a NASCAR race car, injuries and fatalities in crashes would go way down. But I don't think a lot of folks want to pay $150,000 for their grocery getter.
It's always going to come down to economics. Like it or not, we're going to assign values to peoples' lives and make decisions. It can't all be unicorns and rainbows
Last edited by intheburbs; August 27th, 2015 at 1:50 PM.
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August 27th, 2015, 2:28 PM
#8
In my college ethics class I argued against mandating airbags for the same reason 
Those who want safety can / would buy safer cars.
It was not a popular view... according to, at the time, the EPA said a human life was worth around $1 million. The cost of airbags in all cars in the US wasn't financially justifiable.
Whatever happened to that 'ALL SUVs will have backup cameras' law? After that mom in an Escalade ran over her kid(s)?
she... umhh.. blamed GM I think, but she didn't purchase that option? I'll look for a link.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...meras/7114531/
15,000 injured is a lot of people... for $40 in hardware... it's not a $600 air bag.
Those who want safety can / would buy safer cars.
It was not a popular view... according to, at the time, the EPA said a human life was worth around $1 million. The cost of airbags in all cars in the US wasn't financially justifiable.
Whatever happened to that 'ALL SUVs will have backup cameras' law? After that mom in an Escalade ran over her kid(s)?
she... umhh.. blamed GM I think, but she didn't purchase that option? I'll look for a link.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...meras/7114531/
15,000 injured is a lot of people... for $40 in hardware... it's not a $600 air bag.
Last edited by SabrToothSqrl; August 27th, 2015 at 2:33 PM.
August 27th, 2015, 10:04 PM
#9
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YMMV
August 28th, 2015, 7:23 AM
#10
Nascar
And only turn LEFT.
As I was mowing the lawn last night, I realized that in my college argument, I missed a piece.
The total cost of air bags. We all pay for hurt / dead people. Via insurance, down time, etc. As a society, it costs us all either money or resources to correct problems. Air bags may prevent (well, they obviously do) costly problems.
You'd have to identify the cost of not only the life, but the hospitals, ambulances, phone calls, fuels, time, productivity, etc etc on almost forever of the impact of a lack of a simple piece of software.
And I say software because in 2015 all these cars have airbags, which means they all have *** sensors to determine if your *** is in the seat.
If *** NotIn Seat
Then Engine = Off
End If
Boy, that was hard, and should be patented to save 13 people. Or you could not patent that, and save a few more people... but hey, profit, right?
As I was mowing the lawn last night, I realized that in my college argument, I missed a piece.
The total cost of air bags. We all pay for hurt / dead people. Via insurance, down time, etc. As a society, it costs us all either money or resources to correct problems. Air bags may prevent (well, they obviously do) costly problems.
You'd have to identify the cost of not only the life, but the hospitals, ambulances, phone calls, fuels, time, productivity, etc etc on almost forever of the impact of a lack of a simple piece of software.
And I say software because in 2015 all these cars have airbags, which means they all have *** sensors to determine if your *** is in the seat.
If *** NotIn Seat
Then Engine = Off
End If
Boy, that was hard, and should be patented to save 13 people. Or you could not patent that, and save a few more people... but hey, profit, right?