mary900

You mayspendtime and money trying to prove faulty TPMS, especially because (1) the owners' manual directions work on some Tahoes (could claim user error), and (2) the dealer was able to re-program with their magic wand. Maybe the dealer will be willing to replaceyour TPMS?

It's a shame it did not work for you. I have the rubber stem TPMS andfollowed directions in the manual and it worked like a champ on two different occasions.

bimmerborn

All correct. No this dealer will not replace my TPMS sensors. I will try again next time I change the tires. If again did not work, I will keep track of what wheel is where manualy ! To me it is a bonus that my truck does have such a system and I love it. Does not matter which wheel is less pressure. WHen I see the sign I check them all. And will be this way until I change the tires and at the same time change the tire sensors.

When my 5 minute total time to train the TPMS timed out, I just had finished the 3rd tire. After that I was not able to train any of the sensors again. I think the TPMS system went into a weird state. Next time I will be quicker.

anchami

I went through this as well. I went through the procedure about 20 times and each time it would time out before I was able to get to the 4th tire. I thought I was doing it wrong so I read and re-read the manual and it just wouldn't work. I took it to the dealer and they didn't even bother trying the way the manual states. They just used their magic wand and even then they had problems. It was after some tech from the garage came out that he was able to relearn the positions. Now I'm with you, I don't care which tire is low, if my monitor says that one is low I'll just check them all.

As for charging you, I wouldn't pay $20 for that! Especially if they weren't able to get it to work manually either! JMO.

bimmerborn

Thank you for your reply. I am happy that I am not alone with this issue. One more piece of information: When the TPMS system learning mode timed out with 2 beeps when I just had finished the 3rd tire, but at the very samemoment someone in the parking lot openned his car door with his remote. Can it be that the RDLRC ? receiver got confused?
The dealer accepted a $15 goodwrench coupon I had and charged me $5 They also washed my truck so I guess that it OK.

anchami

So you paid $5 to get your Tahoe washed.... pretty good deal! I don't really know about the keyless entry being an interference, but I tried mine MANY times over a two week period. Each time I'd give up and fill the tires back up propperly and drive off. It was at about 3 different locations so I can't see intereference being an issue. I finally caved and took it to the dealer (I avoid them unless I absolutely have to go there!).

bimmerborn

> (I avoid them unless I absolutely have to go there!).

Correct! This is the rule of thumb!

soniccj7

I am running into the same problem with the TPMS. Getting ready to drive into the dealer. If only they sold the magic wand retail..

ED

charlie pachanga

If any one uses aGM key fob around your vehicle while your are in tpms learn mode it will respond to the fob as a tpms. If there are any gm vehilces driving around your vehicle while you are in TPMS learn mode it will learn that moving vehicles TPMS.
The TPMS reciever is the Keyfob receiver. It needs to see a tire pressure ID to know that it is a TPM sensor.
Letting the air out of the tire only vibrates the sensor, when the sensor vibrates it transmits tire pressure read out and will not transmit sensor ID. The only way to transmit Sensor ID is to use the KENT TPM Tool J46079

Document ID: 2155184
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[/align]#07-03-16-004A: TPM System Overview, Diagnosing Tire Pressure Monitor System (TPM) Concerns and TPM Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) - (Jun 18, 2008) [/align]
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Subject:
TPM System Overview, Diagnosing Tire Pressure Monitor System (TPM) Concerns and TPM Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)[/align][align=left]



Models:
2007 Buick Lucerne, Rainier[/align][align=left]




2006-2007 Cadillac DTS, Escalade Models[/align][align=left]




2007 Cadillac SRX[/align][align=left]




2006-2007 Chevrolet Avalanche, Impala, Monte Carlo, Suburban, Tahoe[/align][align=left]




2007 Chevrolet Equinox, Silverado, TrailBlazer[/align][align=left]




2006-2007 GMC Yukon Models[/align][align=left]




2007 GMC Acadia, Envoy, Sierra[/align][align=left]




2007 Pontiac Torrent[/align][align=left]




2007 Saturn AURA, OUTLOOK[/align][align=left]




2007-2009 Saab 9-7X[/align][align=left]




2008-2009 GM Passenger Cars and Trucks (including Saturn except ASTRA)[/align][align=left]




2008-2009 HUMMER H2, H3[/align]
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Attention:
The information found in this bulletin is designed to be a single source for the majority of questions you may have about the Tire Pressure Monitoring (TPM) Systems found on General Motors Vehicles. While comprehensive, the bulletin is divided into sections, so after reviewing the whole document, you can reference just the section you need when further questions arise. A copy of this information may also be given to your customer as the "FAQ's" section is written to assist you in explaining the most common misconceptions about the system in an easy to understand way. This bulletin does not apply to the Saturn Astra and does not apply to vehicles in Canada that are not equipped with Tire Pressure Monitoring.[/align]
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This bulletin is being revised to add the 2009 model year. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 07-03-16-004 (Section 03 - Suspension).
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Customer Concerns and Confusion
When a customer comments on a condition related to tire pressure monitoring, it is very important to distinguish between Check Tire Pressure / Low Tire Pressure conditions and Service Tire Monitor system issues. Understanding the difference between the two distinct conditions will help you distinguish between normal system operation (tire needs air) and a system malfunction.
There are two important differences between a Check Tire Pressure / Low Tire Pressure message/light and a Service Tire Monitor message light:[align=left]



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A Check Tire Pressure / Low Tire Pressure message/light will stay on solid and no system codes are set. The TPM system is operating as designed. Correcting the tire pressure will resolve the issue.[/align][align=left]



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A Service Tire Monitor message/light will blink and system codes WILL set. There is a condition that should be diagnosed and corrected.[/align]
Tire Pressure Light



Service Tire Monitor System (light blinks, then stays on)
The Tire Pressure Light will blink for about one minute and a Service Tire Monitor message will be displayed when a system malfunction occurs. For example: If one or more tire pressure sensors does not transmit information for 18 minutes of driving, the TPM system WILL set a code, display a message, and BLINK the light for about a minute, after which the light will stay on solid for the remainder of the ignition cycle. If the system fault is intermittent, the message/light may also be intermittent - on during some ignition cycles, off during others.
Low Tire Pressure Warning (light stays on solid)
If the TPM system detects a tire pressure below the threshold, the Check Tire Pressure message and the Tire Pressure Light will come on and stay on. The message and light may be intermittent in nature, especially during cold weather.
Conditions That Will Cause the Low Tire Pressure Warning Message/Light to Display:[align=left]



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The tire may have picked up a road hazard and/or have a slow leak.[/align][align=left]



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The tire pressure may not have been checked in the past six months.[/align][align=left]



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The air pressure in a cold tire may be at the pressure where the system is required to warn the driver. However, that same tire will rise in temperature and pressure as the customer drives, causing the message and light to go out.[/align][align=left]



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The tires may have been rotated, pressures adjusted, and the new tire positions were NOT re-learned into the vehicle. This can occur on vehicles that have two different placard pressures for front and rear tires.[/align][align=left]



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There may be a slow leak in one of the wheel and tire assemblies (Valve Stem, Wheel Rim, or Aluminum Wheel Porosity Leak). If this condition is found, please refer to bulletin:[/align][align=left]



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#05-03-10-003B - Low Tire Pressure, Leaking Cast Aluminum Wheels (Repair with Adhesive Sealant) [/align][align=left]



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#04-03-10-001C - Info - Tire Puncture Repair Procedures for all Cars and Light Duty Trucks [/align]
The Effect of Outside Temperatures on Tire Pressures
Important:As a rule of thumb, tire pressure will change about 7kPa (1psi) for every 6°C (10°F) decrease in temperature - dropping when it gets colder outside, rising when it gets warmer.
Tire pressure should be set to the specified placard pressure at the lowest seasonal temperature the vehicle will encounter during operation.
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Use an accurate, high quality tire pressure gauge.[/align][align=left]



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Re-learn the TPM sensors and adjust the tire pressure to the placard values after every tire rotation.[/align][align=left]



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Let the vehicle sit and adjust the tire pressure to the specified value when the tire temperature is at the lowest expected temperature.[/align][align=left]



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Never set the tire pressure below the placard value regardless of tire temperature or ambient temperature.[/align]Important:On extremely cold days, if setting the tire pressure when the vehicle has been indoors, it may be necessary to compensate for the low outside temperature by adding 21-27kPa (3-4psi) more than the placard pressure. At some later time, when convenient and when the tires are cold (outdoors), the pressure should be re-checked and adjusted to the placard pressures if necessary.
Using the TPM Tool
TPM Tool J46079 Software Updates and Hardware Update Kit
The J46079 TPM tool is a valuable aid in diagnosing system faults with TPM systems. It is a software-driven tool that REQUIRES periodic updates in order to work on new model cars and trucks. Failure to update the tool with the latest software version may result in possible misdiagnosis.
TPM Software Version 3.5 has recently been shipped to each GM dealership in the J46079-30 TPM update kit. All future TPM software updates will be posted in GM DealerWorld (U.S) or the GMinfoNET (Canada) as needed. Under the Support tab, access "TPM Downloads."
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A hardware update kit that consists of a custom rechargeable battery pack, battery cover with charging terminals, and a charging cradle with a smart charger where the whole tool will fit into the cradle for charging (same concept as a cordless phone). This hardware update substantially increases the life of the batteries and will assure that the TPM Tester always has full battery capacity.[/align][align=left]



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The software update will add new vehicles and also improve the speed of the tool's read-back ability and accuracy.[/align]Sensor transmission signal strength is displayed in the upper left corner of the main display next to the tool's battery level display. When the tool is used in both activate or scan mode, it will receive the sensor's transmission and indicate its signal strength. It is important to note the sensor's transmission signal strength since it is a good indication of an accurate diagnostic.
TPM Tool J46079 User Tips




Diagnostic Tip
The placement of the TPM Tester's antenna when activating a sensor is critical, especially with the latest software update. When activating a sensor, the antenna tip of the TPM Test J46079 must be placed on the sidewall, perpendicular to the tire, and close to the valve stem (see photo above). This will assure proper activation of the sensor. If the antenna of the TPM Tester is placed either on the valve stem or on the wheel itself, the tool may not properly activate the sensor, causing improper diagnosis.
Diagnostic Tip
If you encounter a sensor that does not respond when activated by the tool, try activating another sensor that responded previously. This will help you determine if the tool is able to activate the sensor or if you have a problem with one particular sensor.
Diagnostic Tip
When using the tool during a sensor learn procedure, use the "Activate" soft key on the tool. Press the key for one second then release and the tool will perform an LF (low frequency - 125kHz) activation cycle. You do not have to hold the key until the vehicle acknowledges. Holding the key will just reduce battery life. The LF activation of the sensors wakes them up and forces them to transmit their IDs immediately. This allows a much shorter sensor learn procedure than using the Delta P method.
TPM Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ's)
The following are some of the most asked questions:
Q: What is a Tire Pressure Monitoring System?
A: The TPM system consists of four sensors (one in each wheel), which transmit wireless (RF) signals to a vehicle receiver (typically, the same receiver that performs the keyless entry function), the Low Tire telltale, and the Driver Information Center (if equipped).
Q: Do all Vehicles Have Tire Pressure Monitoring?
A: Starting with the 2008 MY, all GM vehicles sold in the United States are equipped with tire pressure monitoring, to meet the mandates of FMVSS 138. Some vehicles built prior to the 2008 model year or sold in Canada have tire pressure monitoring; check vehicle build and RPO information to be sure.
Q: What does the Low Tire Telltale Look Like?



A: The Low Tire telltale is a yellow telltale that looks like an exclamation point inside of a horseshoe:
Q: When does the Low Tire Telltale Come On?
A: The Low Tire telltale MUST come on when a tire's pressure drops to 75% of the Recommended Cold Inflation pressure (the pressure value printed on the vehicle placard - the yellow and white sticker in the driver door opening.)
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The tire may have picked up a road hazard and/or have a slow leak.[/align][align=left]



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The tire pressure may not have been checked in the past six months.[/align][align=left]



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The air pressure in a cold tire may be at the pressure where the system is required to warn the driver. However, that same tire will rise in temperature and pressure as the customer drives, causing the message and light to go out.[/align][align=left]



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On vehicles where a different placard pressure is required between the front and the rear axles, the tires may have been rotated, pressures adjusted, and the new tire positions were NOT re-learned into the vehicle.[/align][align=left]



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There may be a slow leak in one of the wheel and tire assemblies (Valve Stem, Wheel Rim, or Aluminum Wheel Porosity Leak). If this condition is found, please refer to bulletin:[/align][align=left]



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#05-03-10-003B - Low Tire Pressure, Leaking Cast Aluminum Wheels (Repair with Adhesive Sealant) [/align][align=left]



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A: The TPMS Malfunction indicator uses the same telltale as the Low Tire warning. The telltale will flash for the first 60 seconds of a KEY ON event, and then go on solid.
Q: How can I tell the difference between a Low Tire and a system malfunction?
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A system malfunction causes the telltale to flash for the first 60 seconds of a KEY ON event, and then go solid.[/align]Tip
These behaviors repeat at each KEY ON cycle. The best way to diagnose the vehicle (if you're not sure which warning is being displayed) is to KEY OFF and KEY ON again while watching the telltale and DIC messages.
Q: When are Diagnostic Trouble Codes Reported?
A: DTC's are reported ONLY when there is a system malfunction (flashing telltale). When a Low Tire (solid telltale) is displayed, that means that the system is working exactly as it's designed to do - since there's no malfunction, there is no need for a DTC.
Q: What service is needed if the Low Tire telltale is on?
A: When a vehicle comes in with a Low Tire warning, the tires should be checked for any leaks or damage (from road hazards). After those have been repaired (or if none are found), the tires should be inflated to the pressure shown on the Vehicle Placard - the yellow and white sticker in the driver door opening. It is not necessary to relearn the sensors after correcting the pressure.
Q: Can Tire Pressure Monitoring be turned off?
A: Tire Pressure Monitoring is now a mandated safety system in the United States and cannot knowingly be disabled by an OEM nor an aftermarket service provider (49 USC 30101).
Q: Can the Tire Type and/or Placard Value be changed, if aftermarket tires or wheels are installed?
A: The Tire Type (P Metric, LT Load Range C/D/E) and the Placard Value (Front Placard and Rear Placard, individually) are stored in the receiver as calibrations and CAN be revised at a GM Dealership with a Tech 2. (The RCDLR Setup screens allow this.) Since the under-inflation threshold is calculated as a percentage of the placard; correcting the placard values when different tires are installed will bring the vehicle back into compliance.
Q: What is Sensor Learning (Sensor Re-Learning, Sensor Training, Sensor Matching)?
A: Each sensor has its own unique identification code (ID) that is transmitted as part of its wireless signal. The receiver stores and uses these IDs to determine which sensors are installed on the vehicle, and in which corner of the vehicle the sensor resides in (so that both the pressure information provided in the Driver Information Center and the diagnostics are correct). Sensor Learning is the process that puts sensor ID information into the receiver.
Q: When is Sensor Learning required?
A: Sensor Learning should be done when the vehicle's tires are rotated (since sensor position on the vehicle has changed) or when a sensor is replaced/a new sensor is installed (since a new ID has been introduced to the vehicle). Sensor Learning is not required when simply correcting the tire pressure resolves the vehicle problem.
Q: Why are dashes (" - - "), or a pressure value of 148PSI (1020kPa), sometimes displayed after a battery disconnect?
A: These displays come up after a battery disconnect/reconnect because the system is waiting for updated pressure information to be sent from the tire pressure sensors. As each sensor transmits its information, the display is updated appropriately. Note that when dashes or 148PSI (1020kPa) are displayed after a battery disconnect/reconnect, the System Malfunction warning is NOT displayed - because the system is still working properly, and simply waiting for updated information from the sensors. Driving the vehicle above 20mph (32km/h) for 2 minutes gets the sensors talking, and restores the correct pressure values to the display. It is also possible to restore the values by using the J-46079 TPM tool, using the "Activate" function at each tire to activate the sensor (it is NOT necessary to put the system into Learn mode, in this special case).
Q: Is there a sensor installed in the spare tire?
A: No - a sensor is not installed in the spare tire.
Q: Are all of the sensors the same?
A: All of the sensors are not the same. They are supplied by different manufacturers, and send different RF signals to the vehicle. SOME of the sensors are interchangeable, though - while they may look different, they DO send the same RF signal to the vehicle and MAY be used in place of one another on a vehicle. See the Sensor Information Guide for more details about which parts are interchangeable.
Q: What size is the sensor nut?
A: The sensor uses an 11mm hex nut for attachment.
Q: Will a tire pressure sensor fit in every wheel?
A: GM wheels (including Accessory Wheels available from GM SPO) are designed to accommodate tire pressure sensors. Many aftermarket wheels also accommodate tire pressure sensors, but not all do. In some, the valve stem hole is placed in such a way (pointing straight into the middle of the wheel, for example) that the motion detection components inside the sensor will not work correctly.
Q: Can the valve core be replaced?
A: The valve core can and should be replaced if it is removed from the sensor, but the replacement part depends on the material of the valve stem (Refer to Service Bulletin # 08-03-10-005).. Sensors with a rubber valve stem may use a standard brass valve core for replacement. Sensors with an aluminum valve stem CANNOT use a brass core; instead, they require a nickel-plated valve core to protect against the corrosion that forms when dissimilar metals come in contact. See the service parts guide for the correct GM part numbers to order and use.
Q: Can the grommet (and washer) be replaced?
A: The grommet (and washer) can and should be replaced if the sensor is removed from the wheel. The rubber grommet provides the air seal in the valve stem opening, and a new one should be used to ensure a fresh seal after each service. See the service parts guide for the correct GM part numbers to order and use.
Q: Can the rubber valve stem be replaced by itself?
A: The rubber valve stem is attached to the sensor electronics by a TORX screw. The valve can and should be replaced whenever the sensor is removed from the wheel. See the service parts guide for the correct GM part numbers to use.
Q: Can the sensor be cleaned with a sharp pin?
A: NEVER use a sharp object to clean the pressure port of the sensor; it can be damaged and lead to part failure. If the dirt/grime/obstruction cannot be removed with a cloth, replace the sensor.
Q: How long will the sensor's battery work?
A: The sensor is designed to last for 10 years or 150,000miles (240,000kilometers).
Q: Are tire pressure sensors compatible with aftermarket tire sealants?
A: Tire pressure sensors are not compatible with commercially-available tire sealants. Tire sealant materials can clog the pressure port of the sensor, and lead to inaccurate pressure readings and improper Low Tire warnings. Additionally, some sealant products use materials that can degrade the protective potting material that covers the sensor's electronics.
Q: Are tire pressure sensors compatible with GM Inflator Kits?
A: While tire pressure sensors are NOT compatible with commercially-available sealants, they HAVE been tested and ARE compatible with GM Inflator Kits and the sealant that they use. After inflator kit use, the sensor should be inspected for any damage, and replaced/cleaned as needed.
Q: Are tire pressure sensors compatible with nitrogen inflation?
A: Tire pressure sensors are compatible with nitrogen inflation (normal air is already 78% nitrogen).
Q: How do changing outside temperatures affect tire pressure?
A: All gases change pressure as their temperature changes, and air or nitrogen are no exceptions. A good rule of thumb is that tire pressure will change by about 1psi (7kPa) when temperature changes by 10° F (6°C). Customers may experience this as temperatures change from summer to fall and into winter - tire pressures will drop as the outside temperature gets colder. Customers may also experience this as temperatures change between mid-day and overnight.
Q: How should tire pressures be set at PDI?
A: Tire pressure should be set to the specified placard pressure at the lowest seasonal temperature the vehicle will see during operation. The correct action to avoid a CHECK TIRE PRESSURE message due to extreme temperature changes is to: Use an accurate high quality tire pressure gauge. Let the vehicle sit and adjust tire pressure to the specified value when tire temperature is at the lowest expected temperature. Never set tire pressure below the placard value regardless of tire temperature or ambient temperature On extremely cold days, if setting tire pressure when the vehicle has been indoors, it may be necessary to compensate for the low external temperature by adding 3-4psi (21-27kPa) more than the placard pressure. When convenient, at some later time, when the tires are cold (outdoors), the pressure should be re-checked and adjusted to placard if necessary.
Q: When will the J-46079 tool be updated?
A: TPM Software Version 3.5 has recently been shipped to each GM dealership in the J 46079-30 TPM update kit. This update consists of two parts:[align=left]



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A hardware update kit which consists of a custom rechargeable battery pack, battery cover with charging terminals, and a charging cradle with a smart charger where the whole tool will fit into the cradle for charging (same concept as a cordless phone). This hardware update substantially increases the life of the batteries and will assure that the TPM Tester always has full battery capacity. [/align][align=left]



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The software update will add new vehicles and also improve the speed of the tool’s read-back ability and accuracy. Sensor transmission signal strength is displayed in the upper left corner of the main display next to the tool’s battery level display. When the tool is used in both activate or scan mode, it will receive the sensor’s transmission and indicate its signal strength. It is important to note the sensor’s transmission signal strength since it is a good indication of an accurate diagnostic.[/align]Q: Where should the J-46079 tool be positioned when it is being used?
A: Tool User Tip: The placement of the TPM Tester’s antenna when activating a sensor is critical, especially with the latest software update. When activating a sensor, the antenna tip of the TPM Test J 46079 must be placed on the sidewall, perpendicular to the tire, and close to the valve stem. This will assure proper activation of the sensor. If the antenna of the TPM Tester is placed either on the valve stem or on the wheel itself, the tool may not properly activate the sensor, causing improper diagnosis.
Warranty Information
GM is very concerned about customer safety and tire performance. Anytime a customer brings a GM vehicle in for a tire or tire pressure monitoring concern, we encourage our dealers to perform a complete check of tire conditions, pressures, and the TPM system if necessary. Under normal circumstances, the condition of tires, TPM reprogramming during tire rotation, road hazard repairs, and checking/maintaining tire pressure are the responsibility of the vehicle owner. GM Dealers should encourage customers to inspect/check and maintain their tires and tire pressure on a regular monthly basis.
The tires and the tire pressure monitoring system are covered by the vehicle bumper to bumper warranty for manufacturing defects. It is GM's responsibility to perform repairs when a defect exists. If no defect exists, the customer should be responsible for the tire/system check.
GM does not cover the normal inspection and maintenance of tires and tire pressure. The use of this labor operation E0716 is intended to identify system defects and verify proper operation.
Warranty Information (excluding Saab U.S. Models)
E0716 Diagnostic System Check - Tire Pressure Monitoring This labor operation should be used to check proper TPM system operation when a customer brings their vehicle into the dealership with a Service Tire Monitor System message/light (blinks on startup, codes in system).
If a customer comments on a Check Tire Pressure / Low Tire Pressure message/light (light was on steady - no flashing), the tires should simply be inflated to the proper pressure - this is not a warrantable repair.
E0719 Washer, Lower Tire Pressure Warning Sensor Replacement This labor operation should be used whenever the rubber grommet is replaced.
E0722 Tire Pressure Indicator Sensor Replacement This labor operation should only be used when a System Malfunction has been confirmed (by labor operation E0716) and the Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) corresponds to a Sensor Fault (DTCs C0750, C0755, C0760 and C0765).
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:




Labor Operation

Description

Labor Time


E0716

Diagnostic System Check - Tire Pressure Monitoring

Use Published Labor Operation Time
Warranty Information (Saab U.S. Models)
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:




Labor Operation

Description

Failed Object

Fault/Reason

Location Code

Warranty Type

Repair/Action Code

Labor Time


3837501

Diagnostic System Check - Tire Pressure Monitoring

38375

67

0

01

08

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GM bulletins are intended for use by professional technicians, NOT a "do-it-yourselfer". They are written to inform these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or to provide information that could assist in the proper service of a vehicle. Properly trained technicians have the equipment, tools, safety instructions, and know-how to do a job properly and safely. If a condition is described, DO NOT assume that the bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle will have that condition. See your GM dealer for information on whether your vehicle may benefit from the information.



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charlie pachanga

read hope this helps

PIT4220B: Unable To Learn TPM Sensors With Rubber Valve Stem Pressure Release Method - keywords check chirp horn low monitor program relearn tire - (Feb 12, 2008)

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Unable To Learn TPM Sensors With Rubber Valve Stem-Pressure Release Method[/align][align=left]



Models:
2007-2008 Cadillac Escalade, ESV, EXT[/align][align=left]




2007-2008 Chevrolet Avalanche, Silverado, Suburban, Tahoe,[/align][align=left]




2007-2008 GMC Sierra, Yukon, Yukon XL, Yukon Denali, Yukon Denali XL[/align]

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This PI was superseded to update Recommendation/Instructions. Please discard PIT4220A.
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The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.
Condition/Concern:
Some customers may comment that they are unable to perform the TPM learn procedure with the new style rubber valve stems when performing the pressure release method. This may be inconsistent from one tire sensor to the next and one vehicle to the next. Utilizing the J-46079 tool should correct this concern.
The release of air through the valve stem sets up a resonant vibration frequency that can trick the TPM Sensor into thinking it is in motion. This causes the sensor to transmit multiple pressure update messages rather than the Sensor ID learn messages. Since the Remote Control Door Lock Receiver (RCDLR) does not recognize the pressure update messages when it is in a Learn Mode, the vehicle will not complete the learn procedure, and the horn will not chirp.
Recommendation/Instructions:
For rubber valve stem sensors only, if you have any problems performing a learn procedure using the pressure release method, use the J-46079 tool to perform TPM Learn procedures.
For customers who are unable to perform the learn procedure at home, advise them of the following information:
While performing the pressure release learn method, some successful TPM relearns have been accomplished by adding or releasing air for 5-8 seconds and then waiting for the horn to chirp. You may have to wait up to 30 seconds for the horn to sound. By only adding or releasing air for 5-8 seconds reduces the resonant vibration frequency in the valve stem and increases the possibility of the sensor sending the correct ID learn message. If this does not work then replace all the TPM sensors with current SPO stock (same part number). A software fix within the TPM sensor was implemented to correct this concern.
Please follow this diagnostic or repair process thoroughly and complete each step. If the condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps do not need to be performed.[/align][/align]

hambne

I noticed on my 07 Denali, when trying the manual method, that when the horn honked to change tires the blinker light on that specific wheel also lit up. Driver front blinkeron, honk and the passenger blinker and so on. I also remember a tire shop having a magic wand had one insted of the dealership.