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Old December 21st, 2011, 4:02 PM
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Default '07 Express gauges not working... Plese help.

In my '07 Express the display cluster gauges remain at zero and all icons remain lit when the ignition key is in AUX position. Switching it to RUN / engine running or not / causes most icons go off leaving only engine, abs and battery still lit and all gauges still at zero. ECU data is not available at OBDII port at any position of ignition key. Otherwise, the van starts and drives as good as always.
Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.

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Old December 22nd, 2011, 1:23 PM
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It may be your stepper motor. That is a suggestion, not a diagnosis. I encourage you to take the vehicle in for an inspection. They should be able to offer a more accurate diagnosis.

If you have any additional questions, please contact me.

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Old December 22nd, 2011, 5:42 PM
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Louis,

Thank you for the reply and I'd take your suggestion under consideration but why a defective stepper motor caused all other symptoms as I've described in my post? All of them happened at exactly the same time.

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I assume you've checked the OBD data link connector for battery voltage on pin 16 (rightmost pin, bottom row as you view the connector under the dash) and ground on pin 5 (5th pin from the left, top row). If battery voltage absent, check the 15A CIG LTR fuse.

If that's not it, there may be a module on the Class 2 data bus that's behaving badly. It may be the I/P cluster itself. The only way to find the culprit is to remove each module from the bus systematically until the OBD data link connector comes live.
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If you PM me your VIN number I can investigate your vehicle further for any known issues.

I look forward to your reply!

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Thank you both very much for the replies. I will update my situation in a couple of days /being that its Christmas and all/.
In regards to my first post, the list of symptoms should have included a failure of all key fob functions /key fob itself is OK/ and the trailer/towing function n/w.
@Louis, I've left the VIN# in Your box.
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