1966 Impala with 283 8cylinder
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here s the deal. there are no main drivers. all these cars drive BUT they are his income source. He rents these cars out as Props to the motion pictures. He told me they pay him $500/diem for the use. Wish I had me some old stuff to rent out.
I was just with him checking out his 69 GMC Jimmy. He had to go out to the shoot to pick up his 79 Suburban and 67 Land Rover.
the powertrains dont matter much because the exterior of the car is all you see on film. I guess I was speaking for me, because I would like to have a more comfortable driver if it were mine.
btw, he should me what he had in the garage, a black 1962 Impala 2 door.
I was just with him checking out his 69 GMC Jimmy. He had to go out to the shoot to pick up his 79 Suburban and 67 Land Rover.
the powertrains dont matter much because the exterior of the car is all you see on film. I guess I was speaking for me, because I would like to have a more comfortable driver if it were mine.
btw, he should me what he had in the garage, a black 1962 Impala 2 door.
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Reducing the rpm of that 283 down to 1400 @ 70mph would require the engine to work harder because it would be below its optimal power/torque curve. Excessive wear and reduced mpg would be the result unless you did a cam swap and recurved the distributor advance. You wouldn't need to change the entire steering column...just the shift indicator. It wouldn't be so bad with a TH350, but dropping an OD tranny into it would (imo) require more work than it is worth.
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I looked it up, there is no 4 speed you can use with a 3875 series motor which the 283 is. It maxes out at 307 cubic inches, so it was never designed to be a player in the 1980s. What I didnt know was that the genesis of the 283 was the 262 and subsequent 265. But there is nothing that will bolt up past the TH350. Oh yea and the 305 was created by putting a 350 crank in a 262 small block. I did not know that. I thought they were invented in lockstep with the Ford 5.0 in the late 60s/early 70s.
The 305 came out in 1976 to fill the void left by the demise of the 283 and 307. It has a 3.750 bore like the original '55 265 V-8 with the 3.48 stroke of the 350. The original 262 was 3.671" Bore X 3.10" Stroke, no other SBC shares a bore OR stroke with it, thankfully. It was used only in the '75-'76 Monza and was by far the worst SBC. With 80's/90's technology like Vortec heads, roller cam and fuel injection it may have been a different story but it is what it is, a dud. Also, the Gen I 265 came first in '55, then the 283 in '57, 262 in '75 , 267 in '79 and the L-99 4.3 V-8 used in the mid-90's Caprice. The 4.3 is also a 265 and uses a 3.000 stroke like the original 265, 283 and old 302 Z/28 and a 305 3.750 bore block and pistons with longer rods to offset the difference in wrist pin location. It moves the Caprice along fairly well for what it is. I think you'll find a '96 Caprice is very close to a '66 impala in weight, maybe a bit heavier. If you dropped the L-99 262 in a '75 Monza with a 5 speed and decent gearing you'd have a little terror on your hands that would probably get 30 something gas mileage if you kept your foot out of it. I know I wouldn't be able to.
As with anything on the Internet please don't take my word for any of this, verify it with RELIABLE sources. Which means don't even think about Wikipedia..... I have spent years eating, breathing and sleeping Gen I SBC's. Besides my personal experience which includes thousands of hours scouring salvage yards and swapping parts, I have a 40 year collection of GM service manuals and reference material. I don't know everything and my memory isn't what it use to be but on the older stuff I think you'll find what I've told you here is pretty darn accurate. However, I know just enough on the Gen II's to get in trouble and just enough on the Gen III's to know to keep my mouth shut.
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Your take on this o/d 4speed thing is way off base
Im not sure where you pulled 3900 rpm cruising down the highway from but the car must be running a 5.13 rear gear cause a glide is stil 1:1 in high gear
The only issue with a glide is that low gear isnt that steep so it dont "come out of the hole" as well with out a bit of rear gear
oh and by the way a 283 is great little motor lots can be done with it.
Im not sure where you pulled 3900 rpm cruising down the highway from but the car must be running a 5.13 rear gear cause a glide is stil 1:1 in high gear
The only issue with a glide is that low gear isnt that steep so it dont "come out of the hole" as well with out a bit of rear gear
oh and by the way a 283 is great little motor lots can be done with it.
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