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Too Many Problems to Count
2006 Aveo LS 1.6Lt 5sp M/T. ECM replaced twice in first year. This should tell anybody who owns one that the electronics on these cars like to go bad and often. Car surged slightly, shortly after the ECM was replaced. "Dealer couldn't duplicate customer's concern". Surging continully worsaned and coded to replace the catalytic converter. This was still under warranty but the dealer not wanting to do warranty work said I needed to spend $700 to replace the injectors to help the mechanic troubleshoot the problem to be sure the C/C was infact bad. I insisted they replace the C/C. Surging went away, then return even worse than before after the car went out of warranty, and coded p2135 indicating the pedal position switch. Code came and went away on its own for several months. Surging continued to worsen and caused the car to go into a steady 2300 rpm mode allowing for no accelorator responce and threw a tripple code p1516, p2106 and p2110. These point to the throttle body, however. These codes could also indicate other electronic issues that may cause these codes to register. Replacing the throttle body or the PPS may not fix the initial problem. I am currently unemployed and have no means of paying the ungodly hourly rates the dealeers or other mechanics are getting. I need assistance with this to be sure it gets fixed right the first time at a minimal cost. I have been trying to find skematics and diagrams to be able to do this repair on my owne but have not been able tofind any for free on line.
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Ok...this is going to be a huge post, but it sounds like it may beyour probelm. If you have some tools, and a bit of knowledge, you should be able to do this job yourself. There are step by step instructions with pictures and part numbers of everything you need. You will have to get the dealer to re-program the ECM as new calibrations have been release since 06. Hope this helps man
#08-06-04-004A: LXT, L91, Poor Acceleration, Throttle Body Frozen Shut and/or Stuck Closed, MIL/SES Light Illuminated, DTCs P1516, P2106 and/or P2110 Set in Extremely Low Temperatures with High Humidity Condition - (Sep 4, 2008) Subject:LXT, L91, Poor Acceleration, Throttle Body Frozen Shut and/or Stuck Closed, MIL/SES Light Illuminated, DTCs P1516, P2106 and/or P2110 Set in Extremely LowTemperatures with High Humidity Condition After an Initial Cold Engine Start or While Driving, Reduced Engine Modes (Install PCV Valve Kit and Reprogram ECM) Models:2006-2008 Chevrolet Aveo 2006-2008 Pontiac Wave (Canada Only) with 1.6L 4-Cylinder Engine (VIN 6 - RPOs LXT, L91) This bulletin is being updated to inform technicians that a Notice statement was added about when or when not to install a PCV valve kit and reprogram the ECM. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 08-06-04-004 (Section 06 -- Engine/Propulsion System). <A href="http://gsi.xw.gm.com/si/showDoc.do?docSyskey=2184906&from=sm#ss1-2184906">Condition Some customers may comment on poor acceleration and/or reduced engine power with an MIL/SES light illuminated after an initial cold engine start or while driving. Upon further investigation, technicians may find the throttle body frozen shut or stuck closed in extremely low temperatures with high humidity condition with the following DTC's: P2106 and P2110 indicate that a throttle actuator control (TAC) DTC is set. This causes the engine control module (ECM) to command one of the following Reduced Power Modes: • P1516: Throttle Actuator Control (TAC) Module Throttle Actuator Position Performance • P2106: Throttle Control System Performance - Throttle Limitation Active • P2110: Throttle Actuator Control (TAC) System - Forced Limited Engine Speed <A href="http://gsi.xw.gm.com/si/showDoc.do?docSyskey=2184906&from=sm#ss2-2184906">Correction Notice: • DO NOT perform the procedures outlined in this bulletin unless the vehicle has recently exhibited a P1516, P2106 and/or P2110 set in extremely low ambient temperatures. • DO NOT perform the procedures outlined in this bulletin on new in-stock vehicles that have not exhibited the concern referenced in this bulletin. • DO NOT perform the procedures outlined in this bulletin as an attempt to repair other TPS or APP-related codes not listed in this bulletin. Follow the appropriate SI diagnostic procedures for codes not listed in this bulletin. If the vehicle has recently exhibited a P1516, P2106 and/or P2110 set in Extremely Low Ambient Temperatures, perform the steps outlined in this bulletin to install the PCV valve kit and reprogram the ECM. http://gsi.xw.gm.com/image_en_us/gif...42/2042975.gif PCV Valve Kit Components
- Caution: Unless directed otherwise, the ignition and start switch must be in the OFF or LOCK position, and all electrical loads must be OFF before servicing any electrical component. Disconnect the negative battery cable to prevent an electrical spark should a tool or equipment come in contact with an exposed electrical terminal. Failure to follow these precautions may result in personal injury and/or damage to the vehicle or its components. - Caution: It may be necessary to replace any worn or damage coolant hose spring clip (hose clamp) to prevent a coolant leak. Verify that all coolant hose spring clips (hose clamps) are secure, before giving the vehicle back to the customer. - Caution: To avoid being burned, do not remove the radiator cap or surge tank cap while the engine is hot. The cooling system will release scalding fluid and steam under pressure if radiator cap or surge tank cap is removed while the engine and radiator are still hot.
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21.2. Install the intake manifold vacuum hole plug, P/N 96351328, on the remaining open intake manifold port (6) as shown above.
24.3. Install the new crankcase vent hose assembly (2), P/N 96896825, to the cam cover (3) and the other end to the new air outlet duct assembly (4). 24.4. Ensure that the new spring clamps are not in contact with any other hose or engine component.
29.2. Turn the ignition OFF for 15 seconds. 29.3. Turn the ignition ON for 5 seconds. 29.4. Turn the ignition OFF for 15 seconds. 29.5. Start the engine in park/neutral. 29.6. Allow the engine to run until the engine coolant is above 85°C (185°F). 29.7. Turn the A/C ON for 10 seconds, if equipped. 29.8. If the vehicle is equipped with an automatic transaxle, apply the parking brake. While pressing the brake pedal, place the transaxle in D (drive) for 10 seconds. 29.9. Turn the A/C OFF for 10 seconds, if equipped. 29.10. If the vehicle is equipped with an automatic transaxle, while pressing the brake pedal, place the transaxle in park/neutral. 29.11. Turn the ignition OFF. The idle learn procedure is now complete.
The calibration numbers required for this service procedure are programmed into control modules via a Techline Tech 2® scan tool and TIS2Web website with the following calibration updates: Vehicle ECM P/N SW Description 2006 Aveo/ Wave 96950901 (M/T) KMRU 96950902 (A/T) KMIU 2007 Aveo/ Wave 96950903 (M/T) KMSU 96950904 (A/T) KMJU 2008 Aveo/ Wave 96940281 (M/T) KMQU 96940282 (A/T) KMHU Use data version 12.5 for 2007 or later, available on TIS2Web. If you cannot access the calibration, call the Techline Customer Support Center and it will be provided. Important: Due to the time requirements of programming a controller, it is recommended that an external power source be used to maintain system voltage. Stable battery voltage is critical during programming. Any fluctuation, spiking, over-voltage or loss of voltage will interrupt programming. To ensure trouble-free programming, GM recommends using one of the following external power sources: • A Midtronic PCS charger. • A fully charged 12V jumper or booster pack disconnected from the AC voltage supply. The ignition switch must be in the proper position. The Tech 2® prompts you to turn ON the ignition with the engine OFF. DO NOT change the position of the ignition switch during the programming procedure unless instructed to do so. Make certain all tool connections are secure, including the following components and circuits: • The RS-232 communication cable port. DO NOT disturb the tool harnesses while programming. If an interruption occurs during the programming procedure, programming failure or control module damage may occur.• The connection at the data link connector (DLC). • The voltage supply circuits. DO NOT turn OFF the ignition if the programming procedure is interrupted or unsuccessful. Ensure that all control module and DLC connections are secure and the TIS terminal operating software is up to date. Refer to the appropriate service procedure in SI to Reprogram the Engine Control Module (ECM) Operating System and CalibrationTech 2® Pass-Through Programming Instructions
Part Number Description Qty 96896823 Kit, PCV Valve 1 12337820 Tie-Straps (Qty 10) 2 |
hi l have one aveo whit p2106 and have a misfire in aleatories cilinders and no response at acelerator have you any idea for mi solution, sorry mi english is bad
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sounds like a bad sensor in the throtle body.
OR, MAF or MAP. Check the IAC and PCV valves as well. Other than that, with such a vague post, I cant say much more... Check for any vacuum leaks. That can happen with extra air. If it was bad spark, it would be misfiring and you wouldn't get TB codes. If it was improper fuel you would get a code from the O2 sensors reading out of range... |
Hi, I have a 2007 Aveo with the same problems/codes. I already cleaned the throttle body and still same codes. On my way to get the new PCV.
I am interested in the whole kit posted here. But, I read everything and just don't understand what it accomplishes. It moves the PCV port an inch and the MAP an inch. What does that do to solve the problem. I just don't see how it helps. Can anyone explain it to me?! I'm pretty savvy DIY with autos. |
its to prevent throttle body icing and dtc's that set from tb icing.
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What next?
I understand what the end goal is. But I don't see what this whole kit changes to accomplish that. It looks like nothing essential changes. The ports are just shifted a minute amount and I don't understand how that would make any difference.
I have all these codes: p2106 p2110 p2135 p2101 on the 2007 aveo5. Only thing is it's not even close to being cold here in San Diego, humid yes, cold no. The TSB refers to extremely cold ambient temps. So i just don't know if this is the solution for me. But I do need to get it fixed so I can pass smog. So far I've cleaned the throttle body and as far in as I could reach in the intake manifold. All ports and hoses are clean. New PCV and still has those codes. I'm not sure if there's a way to clean the contacts on the TPS or not, either the pedal or the TB. I just don't know what to consider without dumping a lot of money replacing stuff one by one. Any help is appreciated |
this campaign used to be done for free up here in Canada. Why don't you call the local dealer and see if it will be covered. maybe a customer rep on this site can tell you.
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P2101 Problem Code
i just purchased a 09 Aveo 5 LT with 94,00 miles on it . I was on my way to work ,a few days after purchasing it when the Check Engine light came on ,and i had no Throttle response on the car. It would not go faster than 15 mils an hour ! When I finally got it towed home I pluggeg the trouble code scanner on her ,and i got a P2101 trouble code ! Something about a Throttle Actuator Module. It looks like it's attached to the throttle body ,and not replaceable. You all have any kind of suggestions on how to remedy this ? Rock Auto sells a throttle body for $143.00 will it come down to having to replace the T Body, or is it a problem with one of the connectors ?
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