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April 23rd, 2009, 7:15 PM

dallen2408

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2006 Aveo LS 1.6Lt 5sp M/T. ECM replaced twice in first year. This should tell anybody who owns one that the electronics on these cars like to go bad and often. Car surged slightly, shortly after the ECM was replaced. "Dealer couldn't duplicate customer's concern". Surging continully worsaned and coded to replace the catalytic converter. This was still under warranty but the dealer not wanting to do warranty work said I needed to spend $700 to replace the injectors to help the mechanic troubleshoot the problem to be sure the C/C was infact bad. I insisted they replace the C/C. Surging went away, then return even worse than before after the car went out of warranty, and coded p2135 indicating the pedal position switch. Code came and went away on its own for several months. Surging continued to worsen and caused the car to go into a steady 2300 rpm mode allowing for no accelorator responce and threw a tripple code p1516, p2106 and p2110. These point to the throttle body, however. These codes could also indicate other electronic issues that may cause these codes to register. Replacing the throttle body or the PPS may not fix the initial problem. I am currently unemployed and have no means of paying the ungodly hourly rates the dealeers or other mechanics are getting. I need assistance with this to be sure it gets fixed right the first time at a minimal cost. I have been trying to find skematics and diagrams to be able to do this repair on my owne but have not been able tofind any for free on line.

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April 24th, 2009, 4:11 PM

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Ok...this is going to be a huge post, but it sounds like it may beyour probelm. If you have some tools, and a bit of knowledge, you should be able to do this job yourself. There are step by step instructions with pictures and part numbers of everything you need. You will have to get the dealer to re-program the ECM as new calibrations have been release since 06. Hope this helps man

#08-06-04-004A: LXT, L91, Poor Acceleration, Throttle Body Frozen Shut and/or Stuck Closed, MIL/SES Light Illuminated, DTCs P1516, P2106 and/or P2110 Set in Extremely Low Temperatures with High Humidity Condition - (Sep 4, 2008)

Subject:LXT, L91, Poor Acceleration, Throttle Body Frozen Shut and/or Stuck Closed, MIL/SES Light Illuminated, DTCs P1516, P2106 and/or P2110 Set in Extremely LowTemperatures with High Humidity Condition After an Initial Cold Engine Start or While Driving, Reduced Engine Modes (Install PCV Valve Kit and Reprogram ECM)

Models:2006-2008 Chevrolet Aveo
2006-2008 Pontiac Wave (Canada Only)
with 1.6L 4-Cylinder Engine (VIN 6 - RPOs LXT, L91)

This bulletin is being updated to inform technicians that a Notice statement was added about when or when not to install a PCV valve kit and reprogram the ECM. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 08-06-04-004 (Section 06 -- Engine/Propulsion System).
<A href="http://gsi.xw.gm.com/si/showDoc.do?docSyskey=2184906&from=sm#ss1-2184906">Condition

Some customers may comment on poor acceleration and/or reduced engine power with an MIL/SES light illuminated after an initial cold engine start or while driving. Upon further investigation, technicians may find the throttle body frozen shut or stuck closed in extremely low temperatures with high humidity condition with the following DTC's:
P2106 and P2110 indicate that a throttle actuator control (TAC) DTC is set. This causes the engine control module (ECM) to command one of the following Reduced Power Modes:

• P1516: Throttle Actuator Control (TAC) Module Throttle Actuator Position Performance

• P2106: Throttle Control System Performance - Throttle Limitation Active
• P2110: Throttle Actuator Control (TAC) System - Forced Limited Engine Speed

<A href="http://gsi.xw.gm.com/si/showDoc.do?docSyskey=2184906&from=sm#ss2-2184906">Correction

Notice:

• DO NOT perform the procedures outlined in this bulletin unless the vehicle has recently exhibited a P1516, P2106 and/or P2110 set in extremely low ambient temperatures.

• DO NOT perform the procedures outlined in this bulletin on new in-stock vehicles that have not exhibited the concern referenced in this bulletin.
• DO NOT perform the procedures outlined in this bulletin as an attempt to repair other TPS or APP-related codes not listed in this bulletin. Follow the appropriate SI diagnostic procedures for codes not listed in this bulletin.

If the vehicle has recently exhibited a P1516, P2106 and/or P2110 set in Extremely Low Ambient Temperatures, perform the steps outlined in this bulletin to install the PCV valve kit and reprogram the ECM.

PCV Valve Kit Components

<LI type=1>Air Outlet Duct Assembly -- P/N 96889507 -- Throttle Body Adapter Assembly -- P/N 96875544

<LI type=1>Crankcase Breather and PCV Valve Hose Insulators
2.1. PCV Valve Hose -- P/N 96896827, Insulator size 60 mm x 100mm (2.4 in x 3.9 in)

2.2. Breather Hose Right Side of PCV Valve -- P/N 96942680, Insulator size 80 mm x 130 mm (3.1 in x 5.1 in)
2.3. Breather Hose Left Side of PCV Valve -- P/N 96942681, Insulator size 130 mm x 145 mm (5.1 in x 5.7 in)

<LI type=1>Map Sensor Vacuum Tube, Throttle Body Adapter Hose and Intake Manifold Vacuum Plug
3.1. Map Sensor Vacuum Tube Assembly -- P/N 96891970

3.2. PCV Valve to Throttle Body Adapter Hose -- P/N 96943257
3.3. Intake Manifold Vacuum Hole Plug -- P/N 96351328

<LI type=1>Left and Right Side Crankcase Breather hose Insulator Tie-Straps (Qty 6) P/N 94530232 Important: Discard the two white tie-straps provided in the kit. Use only two of the new tie-straps, P/N 12337820, and retain the extra tie-straps for the next PCV Valve Kit to be installed.
<LI type=1>PCV Valve Hose Insulator Tie-Straps (Qty10) P/N 12337820, are Not part of the kit must be ordered from GMSPO. <LI type=1>Engine Shackle Bracket -- P/N 96892600 <LI type=1>Map Sensor Bracket -- P/N 96891920 -- Map Sensor Bracket Bolt/Screw -- P/N 94500414

<LI type=1>Throttle Body and Adapter Bolts/Screws
7.1. Allen Head Bolt/Screws Adapter to Intake Manifold (4) -- P/N 94501639

7.2. Throttle Body to Adapter Bolts/Screws (4) -- P/N 94500411

<LI type=1>PCV Valve Assembly -- P/N 96942679 <LI type=1>Throttle Body Heater Coolant Inlet Hose Assembly -- P/N 96887066
Crankcase Vent Hose Assembly -- P/N 96896825

Caution: Unless directed otherwise, the ignition and start switch must be in the OFF or LOCK position, and all electrical loads must be OFF before servicing any electrical component. Disconnect the negative battery cable to prevent an electrical spark should a tool or equipment come in contact with an exposed electrical terminal. Failure to follow these precautions may result in personal injury and/or damage to the vehicle or its components.
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Caution: It may be necessary to replace any worn or damage coolant hose spring clip (hose clamp) to prevent a coolant leak. Verify that all coolant hose spring clips (hose clamps) are secure, before giving the vehicle back to the customer.
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Caution: To avoid being burned, do not remove the radiator cap or surge tank cap while the engine is hot. The cooling system will release scalding fluid and steam under pressure if radiator cap or surge tank cap is removed while the engine and radiator are still hot.

<LI type=1>Disconnect the negative battery cable. <LI type=1>Remove the coolant surge tank cap in order to relieve inner pressure.

<LI type=1>Disconnect the IAT sensor connector from the air outlet duct assembly (1).
3.1. Remove the clamp from the air outlet duct assembly at the throttle body (2).

3.2. Disconnect the breather tube at the cam cover (3).
3.3. Remove the clamp from the air outlet duct assembly at the air cleaner assembly (4).
3.4. Remove the air outlet duct assembly with the breather tube from the vehicle.

<LI type=1>Disconnect the coolant return hose from the throttle body assembly (1).
4.1. Disconnect the PCV valve heater hose from the PCV Valve (2).

4.2. Disconnect the PCV valve heater hose from the intake manifold (3).
4.3. Disconnect the coolant return hose from the PCV valve heater to the coolant surge tank (4).
4.4. If equipped, remove the tie strap holding the ABS Test Connector to the coolant return hose at the side of the coolant surge tank (5).
4.5. Remove the PCV valve heater with attached hoses from the vehicle and save. The hoses will be used later in the procedure.

<LI type=1>Remove the MAP sensor assembly from the original mounting location (3) and save for use later in the procedure.
5.1. Remove the MAP sensor engine harness connector (1).

5.2. Remove the MAP sensor bolt/screw from the intake manifold (2) and discard the fastener.
5.3. Remove the MAP sensor vacuum harness tube assembly from the vehicle and discard. Disconnect the vacuum harness at the intake manifold vacuum port (6) , two retainers at the bottom of the intake manifold (5) and at the MAP sensor (4). Discard the MAP sensor vacuum harness tube assembly.

<LI type=1>Remove the throttle body assembly (1) and save.
6.1. Disconnect the throttle body assembly harness connector (4).

6.2. Disconnect the coolant hoses from the throttle body assembly (2).
6.3. Remove the four throttle body retaining bolts/nuts (3) and discard the fasteners.
6.4. Remove the throttle body. Leave the gasket attached to the intake manifold.

<LI type=1>Remove the generator shackle bracket (1).
7.1. Remove the power steering hose clamp nut. Then remove the clamp from the generator shackle bracket bolt (2).

7.2. Remove the generator shackle bracket bolt (3).
7.3. Remove the two nuts/washers holding the generator shackle bracket to the engine (4).
7.4. Remove the generator shackle bracket and discard bracket. Save all fasteners for use later in the procedure.

<LI type=1>Install the new generator shackle bracket (4), P/N 96892600, to the engine.
8.1. Install the nuts and the washers holding the generator shackle bracket to the engine (3).

Tighten
Tighten the generator shackle bracket nuts to 25 N·m(18 lb ft).

8.2. Install the generator shackle bracket bolt by hand (2). Use a pry bar (1 ) and lightly pry against the generator to align and start the bolt by hand.

Tighten
Tighten the generator shackle bracket bolt to 25 N·m(18 lb ft).

8.3. Install the power steering hose clamp and nut to the generator shackle bracket bolt (2).

Tighten
Tighten the nut to the generator shackle bracket bolt to 10 N·m(89 lb ft).

<LI type=1>Install the discarded throttle body nuts to an intake manifold stud bolt and tighten both nuts together (1). Once the nuts are jammed together, turn counterclockwise to remove the stud bolt. Repeat this process for the other stud bolts. Discard all removed stud bolts.

<LI type=1>Unscrew the PCV valve from the cam cover and discard (1).

<LI type=1>Apply Teflon™ tape to the new PCV valve assembly (1), P/N 96942679. Install the new PCV valve into the cam cover, ensuring the PCV valve coolant pipes are in a horizontal plane (2).

<LI type=1>Install the new PCV valve hose (2) , P/N 96943257, to the new throttle body adapter (1), P/N 96875544, and then install the other end marked with white paint facing up to the PCV valve (2). Install the new throttle body adapter with four new Allen head bolts/screws (3), P/N 94501639, to secure the throttle body adapter (1) to the intake manifold.
Tighten
Tighten the four Allen head throttle body adapter bolts/screws to 10-12 N·m (90 lb in).

<LI type=1>Wrap the PCV valve hose to the throttle body adapter with foam insulator (1), P/N 96896827, size 60 mm x 100mm (2.4 in x 3.9 in) provided in the kit. Discard the two white tie-straps provided in the kit. The following P/N 12337820, tie-straps must be ordered from GMSPO. Use only two of the new tie-strap and retain the extra tie-straps for the next PCV Valve Kit to be installed.

<LI type=1>Install four new throttle body assembly bolts/screws, P/N 94500411, and the throttle body assembly to the new throttle body adapter (1). Tighten
Tighten the four throttle body assembly bolts/screws to the throttle body adapter to 10-12 N·m (90 lb in).
<LI type=1>Connect the throttle body assembly harness connector (2)

Important: Block the coolant hoses at the thermostat housing to prevent any leaks.

<LI type=1>Remove the spring clamp and the upper radiator hose from the thermostat housing (2).
15.1. Remove and discard the throttle body heater coolant inlet hose assembly from the thermostat housing (1) and connect a new throttle body heater coolant inlet hose assembly, P/N 96887066, to the thermostat housing by using a pair of long nose pliers to remove and install spring clamp.

15.2. Position the new coolant inlet hose assembly on top of the timing belt cover in place of the old one (1).
15.3. Install the spring clamp and the upper radiator hose to the thermostat housing (2)

<LI type=1>Install the spring clamp with the new coolant inlet hose assembly, P/N 96887066, to the back or cowl side of the throttle body assembly (1). Make sure that the new coolant inlet hose assembly is positioned under the power steering hose (2).

<LI type=1>Removed in Step 5.5 was the PCV valve heater with attached hoses. The following hoses and spring clamps will need to be removed and re-used:
17.1. Throttle body short coolant inlet hose to PCV valve (1).

17.2. PCV valve coolant outlet hose to the surge tank (2).

Important: The spring clamp to the PCV valve should be located with the spring towards the intake manifold to prevent damage to the breather hose.
<LI type=1>Removed in Step 18.1 - Install the spring clamps with the short coolant inlet hose to the throttle body and the other end to the PCV valve (1).

<LI type=1>Remove the EVAP hose (3) from the intake manifold vacuum port (1) and from both retainers at the bottom of the intake manifold (2, 4).
Remove the retainer from the stud bolt at the bottom lower left side of the intake manifold (1). Refer to Step 10 for the removal procedure of the stud bolt (1). Save the retainer for use later in the procedure.

Important: Ensure that the retainer's larger slot is at the bottom of the intake manifold as shown (3).

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April 24th, 2009, 4:14 PM

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Install the MAP sensor (2) on the new MAP sensor bracket, P/N 96891920, with a new bolt/screw (1), P/N 94500414, and connect the MAP sensor wiring harness connector (3). The MAP sensor connector should be oriented at a 5 o’clock position relative to the intake manifold with the harness (3) positioned toward the front of the vehicle as shown above.
Tighten
Tighten the MAP sensor bolt/screw (1) to 10-12 N·m (90 lb in).

21.1.

Install the MAP sensor vacuum tube assembly, P/N 96891970, between the lower port on the intake manifold (5) and to the underside of the MAP sensor (4). Ensure that the larger end of the vacuum tube assembly (5) is oriented toward the intake manifold vacuum port as shown above.
21.2. Install the intake manifold vacuum hole plug, P/N 96351328, on the remaining open intake manifold port (6) as shown above.

Important: The spring clamp should be located with the spring towards the intake manifold to prevent damage to the breather hose. <LI type=1>Install the original spring clamp and coolant outlet hose removed in Step 18.2 to the new PCV valve assembly port (1).
Install the original spring clamp and coolant outlet hose removed in Step 18.2 to the coolant surge tank (1). If equipped, install a new tie strap to the ABS test connector and attach it to the coolant return hose at the side of the coolant surge tank (2).

Install the new air outlet duct assembly (6), P/N 96889507, to the throttle body (1). Install the other end to the air cleaner assembly (5).

24.1.

Tighten both clamps.

Tighten
Tighten the air outlet duct assembly clamps to 3 N·m (27 lb in).

24.2.

Install the IAT sensor connector to the new air outlet duct assembly (6).
24.3. Install the new crankcase vent hose assembly (2), P/N 96896825, to the cam cover (3) and the other end to the new air outlet duct assembly (4).
24.4. Ensure that the new spring clamps are not in contact with any other hose or engine component.

Important: It may be necessary to provide additional slack, by re-routing MAP sensor engine wiring harness so crankcase breather insulation will not pull on and cause damage to the wiring harness. <LI type=1>Wrap the breather hose and coolant outlet return hose together at the right side of the PCV valve with foam insulator (2), P/N 96942680, size 80 mm x 130 mm (3.1 in x 5.1 in) provided in the kit. Secure the insulator with three tie straps, P/N 94530232, also provided in the kit. Important: A third tie strap may be needed to secure the insulator as shown above (1). Use one tie-strap P/N 12337820 if necessary.
Important: It may be necessary to re-route the crankcase breather hose and insulation, so it is not in contact with the engine lift hook bracket.
<LI type=1>Wrap the breather hose and coolant outlet return hose together at the left side of the PCV valve with foam insulator (3), P/N 96942681, size 130 mm x 145 mm (5.1 in x 5.7 in) provided in the kit. Secure the insulator with two tie straps, P/N 94530232, also provided in the kit. Important: Be sure to add the correct coolant to the vehicle's cooling system.
<LI type=1>Top off the coolant and install the surge tank cap. Refer to the Cooling System Draining and Filling Procedure in SI. <LI type=1>Connect the negative battery cable. Tighten
Tighten the battery negative cable bolt to 4.5 N·m (40 lb in).
Reset the radio stations and the clock.

Perform the following idle relearn procedure:

29.1.

Turn the ignition ON.
29.2. Turn the ignition OFF for 15 seconds.
29.3. Turn the ignition ON for 5 seconds.
29.4. Turn the ignition OFF for 15 seconds.
29.5. Start the engine in park/neutral.
29.6. Allow the engine to run until the engine coolant is above 85°C (185°F).
29.7. Turn the A/C ON for 10 seconds, if equipped.
29.8. If the vehicle is equipped with an automatic transaxle, apply the parking brake. While pressing the brake pedal, place the transaxle in D (drive) for 10 seconds.
29.9. Turn the A/C OFF for 10 seconds, if equipped.
29.10. If the vehicle is equipped with an automatic transaxle, while pressing the brake pedal, place the transaxle in park/neutral.
29.11. Turn the ignition OFF. The idle learn procedure is now complete.

ECM Reprogramming Service Procedure

The calibration numbers required for this service procedure are programmed into control modules via a Techline Tech 2® scan tool and TIS2Web website with the following calibration updates:
Vehicle
ECM P/N
SW Description
2006 Aveo/ Wave
96950901 (M/T)
KMRU
96950902 (A/T)
KMIU
2007 Aveo/ Wave
96950903 (M/T)
KMSU
96950904 (A/T)
KMJU
2008 Aveo/ Wave
96940281 (M/T)
KMQU
96940282 (A/T)
KMHU

Use data version 12.5 for 2007 or later, available on TIS2Web. If you cannot access the calibration, call the Techline Customer Support Center and it will be provided.

Important: Due to the time requirements of programming a controller, it is recommended that an external power source be used to maintain system voltage. Stable battery voltage is critical during programming. Any fluctuation, spiking, over-voltage or loss of voltage will interrupt programming. To ensure trouble-free programming, GM recommends using one of the following external power sources:

• A Midtronic PCS charger.
• A fully charged 12V jumper or booster pack disconnected from the AC voltage supply.

The ignition switch must be in the proper position. The Tech 2® prompts you to turn ON the ignition with the engine OFF. DO NOT change the position of the ignition switch during the programming procedure unless instructed to do so.
Make certain all tool connections are secure, including the following components and circuits:

• The RS-232 communication cable port.
• The connection at the data link connector (DLC).
• The voltage supply circuits.

DO NOT disturb the tool harnesses while programming. If an interruption occurs during the programming procedure, programming failure or control module damage may occur.
DO NOT turn OFF the ignition if the programming procedure is interrupted or unsuccessful. Ensure that all control module and DLC connections are secure and the TIS terminal operating software is up to date.
Refer to the appropriate service procedure in SI to Reprogram the Engine Control Module (ECM) Operating System and CalibrationTech 2® Pass-Through Programming Instructions

<A href="http://gsi.xw.gm.com/si/showDoc.do?docSyskey=2184906&from=sm#ss3-2184906">Parts Information

Part Number
Description
Qty
96896823
Kit, PCV Valve
1
12337820
Tie-Straps (Qty 10)
2

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October 6th, 2012, 10:11 AM

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hi l have one aveo whit p2106 and have a misfire in aleatories cilinders and no response at acelerator have you any idea for mi solution, sorry mi english is bad

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October 30th, 2012, 4:00 PM

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sounds like a bad sensor in the throtle body.
OR, MAF or MAP.
Check the IAC and PCV valves as well.

Other than that, with such a vague post, I cant say much more...
Check for any vacuum leaks. That can happen with extra air.

If it was bad spark, it would be misfiring and you wouldn't get TB codes.
If it was improper fuel you would get a code from the O2 sensors reading out of range...

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Hi, I have a 2007 Aveo with the same problems/codes. I already cleaned the throttle body and still same codes. On my way to get the new PCV.

I am interested in the whole kit posted here. But, I read everything and just don't understand what it accomplishes. It moves the PCV port an inch and the MAP an inch. What does that do to solve the problem. I just don't see how it helps.

Can anyone explain it to me?! I'm pretty savvy DIY with autos.