Spyder HALO Projector Lights
 

I have these Spyder HALO Projector Lights installed on my 2007 Suburban. These do not have the CCFL (Cold Cathode Fluorescent Lamp) bulbs. These lights look great, however, the low beam output is horrible. The stock low beam lit up the roadway better. I am looking to improve the low beam output, so here are my questions:

1. What is the type of bulb used in these Spyder HALO Lights?
2. Are there replacement CCFL bulbs I could buy separately?
3. Considering LED or and HID Kit from CARiD ~ Which kit would be best?

I am looking for anyone who has installed these lights and share the same concerns as far at the low beam output. As well as those that have installed an HID Kit. I am unsure if there is a fitting iand bulb type issue since I now have the Spyder HALO Projector Front Headlight Assembly, which I want to keep on the Burb.

Spider halo lights
 

Im having the same problem.. low beam suck. it may be the stock light that came with the lights. how bright are you halos. My are not that bright!! I ask the dealer I got them from and he is going to check with the manufacturer about it. I with they didnt have the projector part in them... how hard was it to aim them?? if you can can you post some picture of the halos on? thanks..

No kidding. The projectors spread the low beam out, as designed. However, the low beam light that was already in the assembly was definitely weak. I did alot of research and found the only solution was to purchase HIDs. The Spyder (aka Sonar) brand takes the H1 type bulb. I needed to make sure the proper HID bulb would fit in the headlamp assembly, with little to no drilling. As for the HALOS, because I didn't buy the Spyder HALO Projector Lights with CCFL, the rings are very light. As a matter of fact, you don't see them at all in the daytime. I was very lucky when I installed my projector lights. I didn't have to do any adjustments. I am making some LED improvements to the assembly though. I don't like the look of the side marker light which was removed from the stock and reinserted into the Spyder. I just purchased and blue LED side marker light for both sides. I will send pictures on my next post. I will do a day and night to show the difference.

halo
 

Thanks.. did you find out if the hid kits work in the our style headlights? which one of the hid kits work in these head lights? thanks for any info..
mine look like the need to be aimed down more.. Im going to adjust them this week end.. Ill have to take the front bumper off again to make it easier to adjust the bottom screw.. I may replace the halo lights to brighter leds, you have to heat the lights up and take them apart..

I've only attached night time photos. I will try to get the day photos on quickly. The HALO rings look great at night, but faded during daylight hours. Using the driver-side headlamp as reference, if you follow the LED lights from left to right where it curves upward, the last light is the front side marker light (White light / 194 Wedge Bulb). It appears to blend in the photos, but does not. It looks odd in contrast to the LED lights. The simple fix is a blue led replacement. Also, my rear Tail / Brake Lights, License Plate Lights, and 3rd Brake Light are LED aftermarkets too. I should be getting my HID Kit through delivery in the next few days. I ordered an H1 Low Beam Kit at 8000K and 35w, with slim ballast. I will take photos before I install them for a before and after. Going to Universal Studios with the family soon, so that HID Kit better do the trick as far as increasing the low beam output for night time driving.

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WOW your halos look brighter than mine.. did you wire them into the fog lights with the led wires aswell?? what model and brand are the tail lights, do they have a smoked lens aswell. did you get your hid kit off e-bay, if so can I have the place or item number. My wife said she had to drive with the highs on, she said it was like driving with just the driving light on and not the head lights.. I hope the new lights fix
the brightness problems. thanks for the pic's. I'll take some pic's and post them aswell..

Are the LED tails by Eagle Eyes?

8,000K is going to be purple and not provide very much usable lite.

hey 73shark do you have any pic's of your headlight or are the still OEM?? I need better lighting from my units, I really wish they didn't have the projectors in them..

I know this is a chevy forum!
 

Before all i wanted to state that although i drive a Ford, My girlfriend loves Chevy.

Now, ive been reading this thread, and i believe the same manufacture makes all these headlights, Spyder = Sonar,

the CCFL refers to the the halos, were the whole ring emits light, making it more visable during daylight hours, (kinda looks like a tiny flourescent office light ube that has been moulded into a circle) the regular halos just have two leds at the bottom that send light across the clear ring (often with ridges [little lines throughout the circle] to better capture the light).

as far as your driving lights go, i believe the bulbs that come for all the projectors made by this company are either H3 or H1, and the Hi beam take an H1 or 9006 bulb. (Mine is config. lo= H3 Hi=9006) , but all you have to do is check, pull off (gently) the rubber stopper looking thing behind the headlamp. and use google for example to see what bulb you have, for the most part it is written on the bulb, Eg. H3 bulb, its a small bulb with a single wire.

The stock bulbs that come with are not very good, even when properly aimed, i replaced mine with PIAA bulbs, and they are slightly better, but i think the problem is the actual projector, and a projector alone cost around $100~ . I purchased my spyder lights with foglights for $210. Thats four projectors total, i dont know how they make a profit if they are using quality ones. you get what you pay for.

I did though order some H3 HIDs (which by the way ive heard dont fit insiode the projectors cause the bulb is longer)
‪Halo LED Projector Headlights-GOOD IDEA OR RIPOFF?!?!!!!‬‏ - YouTube

...but they should arrive either tomorrow or the day after. (hopefully all goes well.)

Now ive been debating if looking cool in someones rear view mirror is worth sacrificing road visibility at night.

here are some pics of my lights

Ravent:

No, I just did the standard wiring IAW the instructions. I'm not sure what the model is but I will look them up. It's chrome, not smoked. Since my burb is white, the chrome blends a lot better than the black. I didn't want the standard black & white contrast. Just like the 3rd Brake Light, its chrome or clear. The HIDs will arrive tomorrow (WED). As soon as I get them installed and re-adjust the headlamps, I'll take more pics.

Shark: Boy, I hope they're not purple! My research on the kelvin rating showed 6000K as the mostly white with a blue tint. The 8000K was more blue with a white tint. If that makes sense. If it's purple then looks like I have to go down to 6000K.

themierduh:

Very nice ride! Yeah, I didn't know about the CCFL until after I installed my Spyder Lights. So I'm just going to get my money out of it and my a Spyder with CCFL at the end of the year. I did bookoo checking on this one for the Suburban. My final research ended after seeing Spyder Lamps with HID Lights (Combo Package) sold by JM Auto Racing. I emailed the company and asked for the type of bulb on the low beam and they stated H1. Also, carid.com replied in the same. Maybe the Spyder Lights for the Ford is different. Who knows? Again, sweet ride!

you should be fine with the 8k, they are like a light blue, not that deep blue all the risers drive around with, where did you get them?

thanks for the compliments, but my for aint as nice as those new chevy's.

do the HIDs come preinstalled into the headlight assembly?

...CCFLs would be the way to go if you want the rings to be visible during the day, hope all works well.

I hope you post back to see if the HIDs made a difference in your visibility.

I still have the OEM lites. Thought about getting some of the projectors that the AMG poster put on his ride since HIDs in the stock units don't do that well and tend to irritate oncoming drivers from what I've heard.

From what I found when I to was considering HIDs, 4300K was a bright white and provided the best illumination. The higher you go, the bluer it gets and the less lite it provides. See here.

Let us know how it turns out.

yes, please let me know if the hid light fit and work.. thanks..

...i just replaced the stock lights these sonar (spyder halo head lights) come with, with some inexpensive HIDs i found on eBay... (for $37 lets see how this set holds out in the long run) the brand is Xentec black slim ballast (35W 8000K) after all the mixed reviews ive read i was a bit skeptical, but at under 40 bucks, what the heck.

Let me tell you i wasnt disapointed, the kit is real easy to install, ballast is smaller than the palm of my hand, and bulbs fits in the projectors well (only minor modification needed is to cut a small hole to pass the wires)... and boy do these increase visibility significantly.

If i would do anything different, perhaps maybe get a different color, like 6000k or maybe even something whiter like 5000k. Its not that i dont like the 8000k its not like an obnoxious blue, its mere a light blue, but i was trying to get a bright white with slight bluish tint. 5000k would be factory HID super white.

End of story if you buy aftermarket projector headlights to replace your stock reflective headlamps, its definitly worth while investing in a pair of HIDs.

i was boxed into my driveway so i couldnt get pictures of the road view, but it is pretty impressive, there is no glare on street signs.

hids
 

any news on the new hid install

Well, I just returned from Southern California and had an awesome time at Universal Studios! However, before I left last week I ran into some problems!

I ordered the H1 HID Kit that was supposed to arrive just 2 days prior to my departure on family vacation. They didn't!! Out of all places, they were supposed to come from Fremont, CA which is only 1.5 hours away from where I live. Go figure! Instead of canceling my family vacation 'cause of the night time driving concerns, I found a seller in Salinas, CA for the same type and kelvin rating (HID Kit). Here we go....

The darn H1 Xenon/HID Bulb would not fit in the low beam housing (You're f**k***g kidding me). I don't mean the bulb was too long and couldn't have a flushed fitting....I mean the very tip of the H1 Bulb wouldn't make it 2mm in the actual housing. The housing is made of metal and couldn't be modified.

In order to maintain morale with my 3 kids and beautifully hot filipina wife, and NOT cancel vacation....I had to find an alternate solution. I found Sylvania H1 Super Bright halogen bulbs at the auto store ($22 a piece). They fit like a glove and were actually 30% brighter than the original H1 that came with the HALO Projector Headlamp Assembly. NOT HID, but was a perfect temporary solution. I decided to deal with the HID KIT I just purchased in Salinas, and the HID KIT that would be coming in the mail from Fremont, when I return from vacation.

Upon return, I looked at the HALO Projector Lamp Assembly a bit closer. Through research and observation, the HALO Projector Lamp was not a SPYDER (SONAR). It was a knock-off brand and turned out to be a "Not Compatible with any HID / Xenon Bulb" type of unit. I just purchased a set SONAR CCFL HALO Projector Headlights that are compatible, from JM Auto Racing. Good thing is I now get the CCFL on the HALO rings, and a low beam housing that will accept the H1 HID / Xenon Bulb. I just returned the HID Kit back to Fremont and will get a full refund. The guy I purchased the HID Kit from in Salinas is an HID / LED Automotive Seller. I'm going to see if he has replacement LED lights for the assembly too. I pulled out the LED lights from the knock-off and realized they are not as bright as LEDs found on the AUDI / BMW / Mercedes. If he has replacements that would fit, then SCORE!!

I will take photos of the knock off, and when I get the HID finally installed. I will do some installation photos too.

Lots of money spent! Oh, well.

hids
 

Im looking at buy a new set aswell. I hate that no one make a smoked lens like my light have now, that one of the reasons I bought them!! did you get the chrome or black housings..

I purchased the chrome HALO headlamp assembly. Again, it just blends a lot better with the mega-Whiteness on the Suburban. I think the darker colors (Black / Midnight Blue / even Beige) would look a lot better with the black assembly!

The Sonars come in Chrome with Smoked Lens, just search on ebay.
Sonar Smoked Halo Projector Head Lights+LED Tail Lights | eBay

smoked lens
 

I bought a set like that and was told that the hid kit would not fit.

For a guy with a stock 2008 suburban, whats an easy way to get much brighter high and low beams?

You can get some high out put PIAA bulbs, or sylvania makes a great line of silverstar bulbs, id recommend the silverstar ultra, or the new silverstar zxe, and these you could find at your local auto part store. I wouldn't put Hids in the stock headlights because the reflective system will not be able to focus the light properly, producing much glare onto on coming traffic.

Look into either PIAA or Sylvania silverstar bulbs, they are 50% brighter and produce a very bright white crisp light.

How long do these high output bulbs last compared to regular bulbs?

Voltex motoring
 

Hey, I'm new to the site, so if this is stupid go easy. I just got in a set of black LED projectors for my 2011 silverado. The set is made by sonar and the box says spyder on it. They came with regular halogen bulbs in them, but this set also comes with 2 slim ballast HIDs, with H1 bulbs. My question is has anybody put a complete kit like this in? My stock headlights are always on when in drive, does anybody know how this set performs? Also it says proffessional installation highly recomended, and there is no relay included. Is there a danger with wiring it all up like this? And how many hours should a body shop charge for instalation? Just wondering what you guys might know. I will post pics, but this is on my iPhone and I don't see the option.

I'm new to the forum too, but have done plenty of HID installs on previous vehicles.

The HID installs are pretty straight forward, if you can follow dirrections then you can install the unit with no problem. Running the HID during the daytime should burn the bulbs out any faster than normal. my last car, I ran the bulbs ALL the time (morning, day and night). I had to replace one bulb in a span of 3yrs, only because it flickered at start up. You could pay a pro, but the install is so simple that it would be a waste of money IMO.

It's an age-old dilemma. We pretty-up our vehicles (yes they look splendid as they sit there after we've detailed/modified them) but we can't readily appreciate the spectacle of ourselves in motion nor the dynamic performance and appearance of our carefully tended trucks and cars as we put them through their paces. I've considered hiring a chase-driver and camera person to train my HD camcorder on my new Tahoe as I motor along. ;)

I was accustomed to having my brothers drive my car or truck past me under varying amounts of throttle so as to gauge what the general public sees and hears as I grace them with my presence.

manyadeal.com is your best choice !!!!
Good luck !

Although i own a dodge i am having the same problem with my spyder headlights has anyone figured out what kind of bulb to put in the low beams to make them better?

hello im new to the site and have been reading up on this forum, im also having the same problem. I purchased a set of spyder headlights from carid for my 2008 impala. Ive installed them with no problem but the H1 HID kit i was told would fit into the low beams does not fit and will not go in. If anyone has a solution please let me know. Please and thanks

Welcome to the forum.

Have you talked w/ anyone at Carid?

Yes I called them yesterday on my lunch break and they told me that the lights do use a H1 kit and if I can send them pictures of the problem so they can see. I got out of work pretty late so I was not able to take and send the pics so I'll try to do that today. It seems like other ppl here have had the same problem so I was just wondering if anyone found a solution in making the hid kit fit

I have a set of lights with the CCFL and I had to file the opening of the stock H1 light holes out alittle to get the HID kit to work. Im waiting on my switchback lights and a set of the PIAA H1 high output lights for the high beam to install them on my 2007 suburban.. it should look pretty cool once Im done.

So I finally solved my problem yesterday , I used a drill to shave some of the metal off and make the hole bigger, I used a vacuum to suck up all the excess metal shavings and was finally able to make the hid bulb fit. The lights look great now with the hid kit installed. Thanks to everyone who tried to help

I have not installed my light yet. Will i need to do alot of adjusting to aim these lights?

Mine where aimed pretty straight so I did not have to adjust the projector.

cool, thanks..

Where did you get the LED tails and third brake light?