2000 Tahoe - Hard/Rough Starting
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2000 Tahoe - Hard/Rough Starting
Hello all -
I have a problem with my 2000 Z71 Tahoe. I think I know which direction to head, but thought I'd throw this out and see if anyone had different thoughts.
First, this is a 2000 Tahoe (old Style), z71 with a 5.7. Truck has about 240,000 miles on it.
SYMPTOMS
The problem is hard starting. On a normal day, I have to crank the engine for a few seconds while feather the gas, then let off after about two seconds. I repeat this, and after 2 or 3 tries, it catches. The truck seems to run fine, although my mileage has gotten terrible and I am getting maybe 12 mpg, highway or city.
On cold days, first thing in the morning, it starts fine with barely a tap on the key. If I start it within 5 mins of turning off, it starts fine. The warmer it is outside, the harder it is to start.
I do seem lately to be getting a whiff of coolant odor here and there. Also, occaisonally it will get an SES code, which I checked and came back with random misfire. This happens maybe 10% of the time, generally after a particular hard start.
DIAGNOSTICS
- Problem started in late summer, I was getting a code that indicated I needed new catalytic converters, which I had put on. It did not change the problem. (Mufflers were replaced one year before).
- Mechanic ran the codes on his machine and could not find anything.
- On his reccomendation, I ran Sea Foam through the manifold, changed cap, rotor, plugs, wires, fuel filter. I thought there was some intial improvement, but its hard to tell.
- Put a gauge on the rail and I believe I am getting about 65PSI to 70PSI on the fuel during crank. Fuel pump was replaced about 2 years ago and sounds fine when cranking (meaning I can hear it kick on)
Based on reading, I am leaning towards the fuel pressure regulator. If I understand correctly, this is under the manifold. Part of my hesitation is that I would hate to go through all of that, then find out it is also a spider assembly. On the other hand, I'd hate to drop a few hundred bucks on an assembly I don't need. I have debated getting a new regulator, then seeing if I can find a spider assembly used that looks decent. I figure if nothing else, if the problem is fixed, great, and if it changes the symptoms then I would know its the spider assembly.
Anyways, I'd like to hear thoughts. Short of taking it back to a mechanic, I don't have access to any other diagnostic tools.
Thanks in advance for the help.
I have a problem with my 2000 Z71 Tahoe. I think I know which direction to head, but thought I'd throw this out and see if anyone had different thoughts.
First, this is a 2000 Tahoe (old Style), z71 with a 5.7. Truck has about 240,000 miles on it.
SYMPTOMS
The problem is hard starting. On a normal day, I have to crank the engine for a few seconds while feather the gas, then let off after about two seconds. I repeat this, and after 2 or 3 tries, it catches. The truck seems to run fine, although my mileage has gotten terrible and I am getting maybe 12 mpg, highway or city.
On cold days, first thing in the morning, it starts fine with barely a tap on the key. If I start it within 5 mins of turning off, it starts fine. The warmer it is outside, the harder it is to start.
I do seem lately to be getting a whiff of coolant odor here and there. Also, occaisonally it will get an SES code, which I checked and came back with random misfire. This happens maybe 10% of the time, generally after a particular hard start.
DIAGNOSTICS
- Problem started in late summer, I was getting a code that indicated I needed new catalytic converters, which I had put on. It did not change the problem. (Mufflers were replaced one year before).
- Mechanic ran the codes on his machine and could not find anything.
- On his reccomendation, I ran Sea Foam through the manifold, changed cap, rotor, plugs, wires, fuel filter. I thought there was some intial improvement, but its hard to tell.
- Put a gauge on the rail and I believe I am getting about 65PSI to 70PSI on the fuel during crank. Fuel pump was replaced about 2 years ago and sounds fine when cranking (meaning I can hear it kick on)
Based on reading, I am leaning towards the fuel pressure regulator. If I understand correctly, this is under the manifold. Part of my hesitation is that I would hate to go through all of that, then find out it is also a spider assembly. On the other hand, I'd hate to drop a few hundred bucks on an assembly I don't need. I have debated getting a new regulator, then seeing if I can find a spider assembly used that looks decent. I figure if nothing else, if the problem is fixed, great, and if it changes the symptoms then I would know its the spider assembly.
Anyways, I'd like to hear thoughts. Short of taking it back to a mechanic, I don't have access to any other diagnostic tools.
Thanks in advance for the help.
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