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Old Feb 28, 2023 | 2:32 PM
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I took it to the dealer because they have a Pico scope. The lead tech drove it and said there was definitely an abnormal noise/vibration and that he suspected the rear end. I scheduled a rear diff service so they could get it up in the air and check other things during the service. They called later and said that there was absolutely no backlash in the ring & pinion. It was clear that someone had messed with it at some point before I bought it as there was a retainer clip missing and non-factory silicone. Whoever messed with it had everything too tight and too close and there was alot of metal in the fluid. They suggested replacing the entire rear end with a used one as it would be cheaper than replacing the internals. They said this is likely the cause of the noise/vibration.

I don't know alot about the inner workings of the diff. I'm wondering if just having the ring and pinon replaced (at somewhere other than the dealer) or if everything else likely has been damaged by the circulating metal shavings.
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Old Feb 28, 2023 | 3:03 PM
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That sucks. It may sound like you can just change the guts, but in reality it takes a lot of labour. Everything needs to be set up perfectly to within thousandths of an inch. it can be very time consuming and few people have the skills to do it properly. If you don’t… well you just witnessed the results. It’s usually cheaper to just find a complete axle you can just plug and play.
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Old Feb 28, 2023 | 3:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mountainmanjoe
That sucks. It may sound like you can just change the guts, but in reality it takes a lot of labour. Everything needs to be set up perfectly to within thousandths of an inch. it can be very time consuming and few people have the skills to do it properly. If you don’t… well you just witnessed the results. It’s usually cheaper to just find a complete axle you can just plug and play.
Yeah that's what I'm thinking. It won't be me either way, it has to go to a shop because I don't have the space/tools to do it myself. I can get a much lower mileage used axle for several hundred $, might be the best option. There's a very good specialty driveline/axle shop a few towns away. I may see what they will charge for either option.
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Old Feb 28, 2023 | 8:05 PM
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Wow that's a bummer. Yes junkyard replacement is likely best. Find one from where things don't rust. What rear end is in it? Might be a 10.5" 14 bolt full floater because you can adjust the backlash rather than using shims and someone who doesn't know could get it off when putting it back together. I did a 14BFF and it wasn't easy because of the high torque involved but the adjustments are simple to make other than pinion bearing preload. It took me 3 crush sleeves to get the pinion preload right. It's hard to tighten the pinion nut just a bit more when you are using a 6 foot cheater pipe!
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Old Mar 2, 2023 | 10:41 AM
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Wow that's a bummer. Yes junkyard replacement is likely best. Find one from where things don't rust. What rear end is in it? Might be a 10.5" 14 bolt full floater because you can adjust the backlash rather than using shims and someone who doesn't know could get it off when putting it back together. I did a 14BFF and it wasn't easy because of the high torque involved but the adjustments are simple to make other than pinion bearing preload. It took me 3 crush sleeves to get the pinion preload right. It's hard to tighten the pinion nut just a bit more when you are using a 6 foot cheater pipe!
I'm not sure what size it is but it does have 14 bolts in the diff cover. Is there only one variation that has 14 bolts? I'm assuming I should replace it with the exact same. Or is there another variant that will bolt right up and would be better?
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Old Mar 2, 2023 | 1:06 PM
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Vans are either full floating 10.5" or semi-floating 9.5" for 14-bolt. The FF has a bolt on pinion support and hubs that stick out through the wheels.
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Old Mar 2, 2023 | 1:52 PM
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1500 are semi, 2500 and 3500 are full floating
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Old Mar 4, 2023 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by tech2
1500 are semi, 2500 and 3500 are full floating
My 2015 3500 has the semi-floating axle. It is the original axle.

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Old Mar 5, 2023 | 12:40 AM
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semi floating axle can't support the weight load a 3500 requires...how many lug nuts. or post a pic of the hub.
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Old Mar 5, 2023 | 3:22 AM
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Eight lug, no hub sticking out.
Payload is 2945 lbs

From Chevrolet,
Specifications for 2015 2500/3500 passenger vans, under Chassis / Suspension
Rear;
Two-stage, semi-elliptic multi-leaf springs and semi-floating rear axle

https://media.chevrolet.com/media/us...2015.tab1.html


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