Parking Brake - self adjusting assembly?
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Parking Brake - self adjusting assembly?
I see references to the parking brake cable being self adjusting at the pedal.
In the manual it only looks like this auto-adjust it for putting slack in the cable for service to the brakes or cables.
But ... I see a small lever attached to the parking brake assembly and found one reference to it having to do with the self adjusting mechanism. I find nothing in my maintenance manual about it.
Have you encountered the lever or can you educate me on the "auto-adjust"?
In the manual it only looks like this auto-adjust it for putting slack in the cable for service to the brakes or cables.
But ... I see a small lever attached to the parking brake assembly and found one reference to it having to do with the self adjusting mechanism. I find nothing in my maintenance manual about it.
Have you encountered the lever or can you educate me on the "auto-adjust"?
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I'm not sure about the cable, but back in the day of drum brakes, the parking brake mechanism is supposed to self adjust *in theory*. I believe hitting the brakes while driving in reverse is what ratchets it tighter. Of course as the parts wear and get rusty the self adjustments becomes less reliable. It's good to manually adjust yourself once in a while.
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Almost every car or truck I've driven over the past 44 years of driving has had drum brakes in the rear, and I've always done my own brakes. I think the only vehicles I ever owned with rear disc brakes were a Subaru and a Volvo.
As @mountainmanjoe mentions, there is the self adjuster mechanism that is part of the rear brake mechanism. I'm closely intimate with this as I did the rear brakes on my 2006 Silverado 1500 last weekend. It effectively ratchets out every time you hit the brakes, to ensure that the brakes are almost flush against the surface of the drum. When you do the brakes, you turn it all the way in, then work it back out until the drum fits fairly snug and just turns.
The emergency brake system engages with one of the two brake shoes via a cable and a lever that is attached to one of the shoes in each drum. On my truck, there is a single cable from the emergency brake pedal, to about halfway back on the frame, and at that point, it has a bracket that the cables to the two rear wheels. I detached the cables from that bracket to get enough slack in them to remove and replace the brake shoes, then reattached. I am thinking maybe you have a lever to release the cable from the pedal itself, to get slack, or else to attach it in the first place. Either way, I've never looked for or used a lever on the emergency brake pedal, so I would leave that alone. No self adjusting of the brake mechanism is happening at that pedal.
As @mountainmanjoe mentions, there is the self adjuster mechanism that is part of the rear brake mechanism. I'm closely intimate with this as I did the rear brakes on my 2006 Silverado 1500 last weekend. It effectively ratchets out every time you hit the brakes, to ensure that the brakes are almost flush against the surface of the drum. When you do the brakes, you turn it all the way in, then work it back out until the drum fits fairly snug and just turns.
The emergency brake system engages with one of the two brake shoes via a cable and a lever that is attached to one of the shoes in each drum. On my truck, there is a single cable from the emergency brake pedal, to about halfway back on the frame, and at that point, it has a bracket that the cables to the two rear wheels. I detached the cables from that bracket to get enough slack in them to remove and replace the brake shoes, then reattached. I am thinking maybe you have a lever to release the cable from the pedal itself, to get slack, or else to attach it in the first place. Either way, I've never looked for or used a lever on the emergency brake pedal, so I would leave that alone. No self adjusting of the brake mechanism is happening at that pedal.
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Only e-brake is a drum brake ...
Almost every car or truck I've driven over the past 44 years of driving has had drum brakes in the rear, and I've always done my own brakes. ...
As @mountainmanjoe mentions, there is the self adjuster mechanism that is part of the rear brake mechanism. .... It effectively ratchets out every time you hit the brakes, ...
.... I am thinking maybe you have a lever to release the cable from the pedal itself, to get slack, or else to attach it in the first place. Either way, I've never looked for or used a lever on the emergency brake pedal, so I would leave that alone. No self adjusting of the brake mechanism is happening at that pedal.
As @mountainmanjoe mentions, there is the self adjuster mechanism that is part of the rear brake mechanism. .... It effectively ratchets out every time you hit the brakes, ...
.... I am thinking maybe you have a lever to release the cable from the pedal itself, to get slack, or else to attach it in the first place. Either way, I've never looked for or used a lever on the emergency brake pedal, so I would leave that alone. No self adjusting of the brake mechanism is happening at that pedal.
The '03 Express 3500 has disc brakes all around. Only the emergency brake is a drum brake. I have worked on the van's disc brakes myself ... and on my Volvo.
So if driving in reverse and hitting the disc brakes is supposed to tighten the emergency brake that is an independent system ... what is moving what?
Or does "hitting the brakes" mean "apply the parking brake" while driving in reverse?
All the auto-adjust in the manual refers to the e-brake pedal. Pg 5-138.
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The '03 Express 3500 has disc brakes all around. Only the emergency brake is a drum brake. I have worked on the van's disc brakes myself ... and on my Volvo.
So if driving in reverse and hitting the disc brakes is supposed to tighten the emergency brake that is an independent system ... what is moving what?
Or does "hitting the brakes" mean "apply the parking brake" while driving in reverse?
All the auto-adjust in the manual refers to the e-brake pedal. Pg 5-138.
The '03 Express 3500 has disc brakes all around. Only the emergency brake is a drum brake. I have worked on the van's disc brakes myself ... and on my Volvo.
So if driving in reverse and hitting the disc brakes is supposed to tighten the emergency brake that is an independent system ... what is moving what?
Or does "hitting the brakes" mean "apply the parking brake" while driving in reverse?
All the auto-adjust in the manual refers to the e-brake pedal. Pg 5-138.
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auto-adjust ... not that I can see
Well I finally recruited someone to help and went through the motions of disabling and enabling the brake cable auto-adjuster.
Unless the "auto-adjuster" is broken it is just a cable lock to put slack in the brake cable while working on the cables.
I do not see anything that qualifies as an adjustment. There is no increase in tension.
I still do not see or understand the purpose of the small lever. It just moves with the parking brake. (?)
I have yet to find anything in the manual that specifies the length of the various cables to check for stretching.
The thought that the cable apples more or less pressure on the e-brake may just be a misdirection and
all the adjustment is in the rotor itself through the port on the axil side of the wheel.
Unless the "auto-adjuster" is broken it is just a cable lock to put slack in the brake cable while working on the cables.
I do not see anything that qualifies as an adjustment. There is no increase in tension.
I still do not see or understand the purpose of the small lever. It just moves with the parking brake. (?)
I have yet to find anything in the manual that specifies the length of the various cables to check for stretching.
The thought that the cable apples more or less pressure on the e-brake may just be a misdirection and
all the adjustment is in the rotor itself through the port on the axil side of the wheel.
Last edited by tbb2; July 21st, 2024 at 10:04 AM.
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parking brake adjustment is covered in the section titled "Park Brake Shoe - Replacement"
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