Mysterious rough idle
Hello,
I have a 2014 Chevy Suburban LTZ (5.3L) with 148,000 miles. I do all my own maintenance and keep her in as good of shape as I can. Recently she started to have a slightly rough idle. (Her first issue besides a cracked dashboard) Initially it was intermittent, sometimes idling perfectly smooth and sometimes the idle was noted to get a little low causing a slight shake. I could barely see the Rpm needle moving but it was noticeable. I figured it was possibly carbon build up or possibly dirty fuel injectors. I tried a concentrate fuel injector cleaner but there was no apparent change. I then did the following:
I then
What else am I missing? Why is this engine running rich on both fuel banks?
Other maintenance I have recently done:
I have a 2014 Chevy Suburban LTZ (5.3L) with 148,000 miles. I do all my own maintenance and keep her in as good of shape as I can. Recently she started to have a slightly rough idle. (Her first issue besides a cracked dashboard) Initially it was intermittent, sometimes idling perfectly smooth and sometimes the idle was noted to get a little low causing a slight shake. I could barely see the Rpm needle moving but it was noticeable. I figured it was possibly carbon build up or possibly dirty fuel injectors. I tried a concentrate fuel injector cleaner but there was no apparent change. I then did the following:
- Using an OBD2 reader I see a P0300 Random Misfire (No Check Engine Light)
- Short Term Fuel Trim on both Bank 1 & Bank 2 is approximately 0% to -2%
- Long Term Fuel Trim on both Bank 1 & Bank 2 is approximately -17% to -20% (Rich)
- Idle rpm varies from ~620 to 550
- Engine running fuel pressure = ~42/43 psi
- Replaced 8 new spark plugs (No change)
- Replaced 8 new spark plug wires (No change)
- Replaced 8 new ignition coils (No change)
- Cleaned MAF sensor (No change)
- Mass air flow rate from MAF sensor = 0.706 lb/min (Should ideally read around (5.3 grams per second at idle)
- Converting 0.706 lb/min to grams per second (x453.6 / 60) results in approximately 5.34 g/s.
- Unplugged MAF sensor to see if there was a change (Ran worse and threw MAF codes)
- Removed and cleaned the throttle body.
- Noted it as somewhat dirty, dirtier on the back side of the butterfly.
- Noted the intake appears slightly wet.
- Re-installed and did the idle re-learn procedure (No change)
- P0300 Random Misfire remains (No Check Engine Light)
- Long Term Fuel Trim on both Bank 1 & Bank 2 is approximately -17% to -20% (Rich)
I then
- Replaced 8 new fuel injectors
- Replaced the EVAP Purge valve
- Noted reduction on idle stumbling below 500 rpm, no engine shutting off noted while slowing down however slightly rough idle remains
- P0300 Random Misfire remains (No Check Engine Light)
- Long Term Fuel Trim on both Bank 1 & Bank 2 is approximately -17% to -20% (Rich)
- Dropped the fuel tank and replaced the fuel pump / fuel pressure regulator assembly
- Fuel tank appeared very clean inside
- Used compressed air to blow out all the fuel and vent lines, no debris/charcoal came out of the lines (Only a small amount of fuel)
- Reinstalled and drove ~5 miles round trip to the gas station to fill up.
- Started right up, no leaks, fuel gauge works, no issues filling.
- Idle still feels slightly rough.
- P0300 Random Misfire remains (No Check Engine Light)
- Long Term Fuel Trim on both Bank 1 & Bank 2 is approximately -17% to -20% (Rich)
What else am I missing? Why is this engine running rich on both fuel banks?
Other maintenance I have recently done:
- New brake pads and rotors
- New tires
- New front and rear air suspension
- New serpentine belt
- New battery
- New wipers
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