02 Tahoe Z71 No electrical power
#1
02 Tahoe Z71 No electrical power
2002 Tahoe Z71 4x4 with 5.3 flex fuel engine 109,000 miles
Wife goes out to start Tahoe. Puts key in waits for chimes to stop and trys to start it (everything is working at this point Radio lights dash). Nothing no click etc. releases key to run position now it has now power. no dash lights, interiior lights no radio no power locks no power seat nothing.
I get home and check the battery test at 12.8 volts checked gables all tight but removed and cleaned to be sure, still nothing check all of the fusses and cables again. every once and a while I hear a faint hum in the speakers. Pull radio fuse it goes away plug it back in gone but randomly comes back. Every once and a while I hear relay clicks. Whe I locate it and get ready to test it it stops and another starts. then they all stop.
I decide that it must be a ground problem. I chase the negative battery cable to the block and block to firewall. Connection shows some corrosion but not bad. cleaned these and another to the frame, two to the fire wall and one on the hood (all I could find). Tried to start it. Now I have power but now the starter just clicks like the battery is dead (battery is fine) try it several times clicking goes from multiple clicks to a single click. Frustrated I pull the starter to check connections and clean the mounting points to the block thinking it is a ground problem every thing looks great. (I did not have the starter tested but never had a problem before) Still have power but the starter just clicks. Help!!!!!!!
Motor is not seized I can turn the motor with a wrench.
Wife goes out to start Tahoe. Puts key in waits for chimes to stop and trys to start it (everything is working at this point Radio lights dash). Nothing no click etc. releases key to run position now it has now power. no dash lights, interiior lights no radio no power locks no power seat nothing.
I get home and check the battery test at 12.8 volts checked gables all tight but removed and cleaned to be sure, still nothing check all of the fusses and cables again. every once and a while I hear a faint hum in the speakers. Pull radio fuse it goes away plug it back in gone but randomly comes back. Every once and a while I hear relay clicks. Whe I locate it and get ready to test it it stops and another starts. then they all stop.
I decide that it must be a ground problem. I chase the negative battery cable to the block and block to firewall. Connection shows some corrosion but not bad. cleaned these and another to the frame, two to the fire wall and one on the hood (all I could find). Tried to start it. Now I have power but now the starter just clicks like the battery is dead (battery is fine) try it several times clicking goes from multiple clicks to a single click. Frustrated I pull the starter to check connections and clean the mounting points to the block thinking it is a ground problem every thing looks great. (I did not have the starter tested but never had a problem before) Still have power but the starter just clicks. Help!!!!!!!
Motor is not seized I can turn the motor with a wrench.
#2
Administrator
Welcome to the forum.
You say the battery is OK. What's the battery voltage when the key is in the Start position? If it doesn't drop a lot, then I suspect starter/solenoid. If it does drop a lot, then suspect battery.
You say the battery is OK. What's the battery voltage when the key is in the Start position? If it doesn't drop a lot, then I suspect starter/solenoid. If it does drop a lot, then suspect battery.
#3
Thanks people seem nice and helpful on this forum.
Battery Voltage was 12.8 before charging and when in the start position it dropped to 12.6 back in the run position voltage returned to 12.8.
Battery Voltage was 12.8 before charging and when in the start position it dropped to 12.6 back in the run position voltage returned to 12.8.
Last edited by 510det; February 24th, 2010 at 6:18 PM.
#5
Thanks for the suggestion. I have been wondering if maybe there are more grounds I have not found. Anyone know where I can get a good wiring diagram and or Ground location map?
#6
Administrator
If you are only dropping 0.2 V, then the solenoid is not energizing. That's either because it's bad or like maxxman said, you've got a bad connection some where. Might try tapping the solenoid & starter w/ a hammer while someone holds the key in the start position.
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#8
update: I cleaned all of the positive connections I could find coming off the Positive battery cable.
Tested the voltage at the battery, at rest 12.6v while trying to start (just getting clicking fromt the starter) it drops to 4 to 5v. Key removed battery at 12.3v
If I disconect the battery and let it sit for a while and then re conect the battery I get all of the power back. I try to start it and get readings like those above. After several attemts the battery is still reading ok but the stater will go from makking multiple rapid clicks to a single click. This click is to quick to get a reading from. So I disconect the battery (working on things) and it will retrun to multiple rapid clicks then after multiple attempts just a single click.
At no time has the motor turned over just ckicking.
Im going to try tapping on the starter tomarrow while is someone trying to start it. If that does not work out comes the starter to have it tested.
The starter is a real pain to get out and in there is just no room to move it around. Are there any tricks to make this easier?
Thanks
Tested the voltage at the battery, at rest 12.6v while trying to start (just getting clicking fromt the starter) it drops to 4 to 5v. Key removed battery at 12.3v
If I disconect the battery and let it sit for a while and then re conect the battery I get all of the power back. I try to start it and get readings like those above. After several attemts the battery is still reading ok but the stater will go from makking multiple rapid clicks to a single click. This click is to quick to get a reading from. So I disconect the battery (working on things) and it will retrun to multiple rapid clicks then after multiple attempts just a single click.
At no time has the motor turned over just ckicking.
Im going to try tapping on the starter tomarrow while is someone trying to start it. If that does not work out comes the starter to have it tested.
The starter is a real pain to get out and in there is just no room to move it around. Are there any tricks to make this easier?
Thanks
#10
Yes that is what I was getting at, just a little sleep deprived and frustrated. Im going to pull it out Saturday to have it tested.
I hope cleaning the connections has fixed the no power problem