Tahoe & Suburban The power, space, and brutal towing ability make the Tahoe and its longer sibling, the Suburban, arguably the best full size SUV's on the market today.

2013 Chevrolet Suburban
Platform: GMT 400, 800, 900

2003 suburban 5.3L surges on cold mornings

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old December 7th, 2015, 3:23 AM
  #1  
CF Beginner
Thread Starter
 
togorman5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default 2003 suburban 5.3L surges on cold mornings

2003 suburban 1500 5.3L surges on cold mornings (mid 20s and below). It also idles quite a bit higher than normal during this condition as if were an old carburetor rig. After it has been up to operating temp for a while this condition goes away. Codes give a multi cylinder misfire. Dealership thought intake gasket was possible cause. It has done this for a few years now during the winter months so I have my doubts about the intake gasket hypothesis. My instincts suggest it is an electrical component somewhere that wants to be in Arizona or somewhere warmer. Any thoughts?
Old December 7th, 2015, 9:32 AM
  #2  
Administrator
 
73shark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: KC, MO area
Posts: 10,916
Received 158 Likes on 156 Posts
Default

Welcome to the forum. As the engine warms up, the metal tends to expand and perhaps the intake gasket is the correct diagnosis as the expanding metal could seal a small leak.
Old December 7th, 2015, 9:58 AM
  #3  
CF Senior Member
 
Scotiapilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 320
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

For me, here in AZ, this is an indication of dirty injectors. as they gum up etc they have a hard time adjusting to the ecm inputs etc.

So I usually throw in techron, 20 gallon bottle on a 1/4 tank x 2.


.02
Old December 7th, 2015, 8:01 PM
  #4  
CF Veteran
 
cleveland63b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: nebraska
Posts: 1,433
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I've done numerous intake gaskets for those symptoms, if you have access to a scanner you need to check the fuel trims while its cold and warmed up.
Old December 7th, 2015, 8:49 PM
  #5  
Super Moderator
 
tech2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 9,171
Received 507 Likes on 467 Posts
Default

+ 2 for intake gaskets. +2 for viewing fuel trim at idle and 2500rpm. if its adding fuel at idle but comes back in spec at 2500 a vacuum leak is indicated.


leaking gaskets lean out the fuel mixture. when its cold, the mixture must be rich.

Last edited by tech2; December 7th, 2015 at 8:51 PM.
Old December 8th, 2015, 1:06 AM
  #6  
CF Beginner
Thread Starter
 
togorman5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thank you for your help everyone. They are all good advice. I will follow up and let you know what I find




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 5:37 AM.