Ethanol... lol
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Ethanol... lol
Ethanol.. what is it good for?! Absolutely nothing!
lol
https://consumerist.com/2017/05/04/w...m-restaurants/
I love the Simpsons, and the fact that ethanol ruins engines, kills performance, ruins gasoline shelf life, costs more, pollutes more, and is now causing people to steal cooking grease... just... makes me laugh...
that is all
I believe even GM dropped E85 support in the new Tahoe/Burb, right?
lol
https://consumerist.com/2017/05/04/w...m-restaurants/
I love the Simpsons, and the fact that ethanol ruins engines, kills performance, ruins gasoline shelf life, costs more, pollutes more, and is now causing people to steal cooking grease... just... makes me laugh...
that is all
I believe even GM dropped E85 support in the new Tahoe/Burb, right?
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That's an article on vegetable oil being stolen to make biodiesel. E85 is mentioned exactly once, in one sentence. Reading comprehension fail (or science fail).
And theoretically E85 should increase the performance from an engine because of its cooling properties and resistance to detonation. You really can't give it an octane rating like gasoline, but its equivalent octane rating is well over 100. I've never run E85 in any of my vehicles, though I am tempted to run it in the Denali, to see if it does make a performance difference. That, plus the fact that it might even drop me into single digits on my mileage.
And theoretically E85 should increase the performance from an engine because of its cooling properties and resistance to detonation. You really can't give it an octane rating like gasoline, but its equivalent octane rating is well over 100. I've never run E85 in any of my vehicles, though I am tempted to run it in the Denali, to see if it does make a performance difference. That, plus the fact that it might even drop me into single digits on my mileage.
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My bad, I didn't have enough sleep last night. You are correct, bio diesel is not ethanol.
From what most people here have observed, once they run E85, their engine is never the same (for the worse).
Seems it's going to take alot of E85 to move a car.
"Ethanol and fuels like E85
1.5 gallons of ethanol has the same energy content as 1.0 gallon of gasoline."
So, to clarify, you need 1.5x more, for the same energy. That's manufacturing, shipping, purchasing, then burning.
I love me some E85... it just makes so much damn sense
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoli...fuels_like_E85
If you run the numbers on your single digit MPG, vs. the cost savings of E85... I believe you'll find you're wasting money.
That, and since the engine was designed to run on gas, and gas has more energy per gallon, there's really only one way for your performance to go...
There are engines designed to run on ethanol that produce power, by being designed with the octane rating in mind. So.. I'd assume high compression.
From what most people here have observed, once they run E85, their engine is never the same (for the worse).
Seems it's going to take alot of E85 to move a car.
"Ethanol and fuels like E85
1.5 gallons of ethanol has the same energy content as 1.0 gallon of gasoline."
So, to clarify, you need 1.5x more, for the same energy. That's manufacturing, shipping, purchasing, then burning.
I love me some E85... it just makes so much damn sense
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoli...fuels_like_E85
If you run the numbers on your single digit MPG, vs. the cost savings of E85... I believe you'll find you're wasting money.
That, and since the engine was designed to run on gas, and gas has more energy per gallon, there's really only one way for your performance to go...
There are engines designed to run on ethanol that produce power, by being designed with the octane rating in mind. So.. I'd assume high compression.
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I never even remotely considered that it'd save me money. I know better than that.
But again, the higher-octane behavior of the E85 might allow the engine to develop a few more ponies since E85 is so much more resistant to detonation. My L9H runs 9.6:1 compression, IIRC, so the higher octane should theoretically allow the engine to run slightly more aggressive timing for a little more power.
But again, the higher-octane behavior of the E85 might allow the engine to develop a few more ponies since E85 is so much more resistant to detonation. My L9H runs 9.6:1 compression, IIRC, so the higher octane should theoretically allow the engine to run slightly more aggressive timing for a little more power.