2007 tahoe fuel fill up issues
#11
Ok I have the same exact issue you are having. Replaced the Solenoid at by the tank, the Charcoal canister, and the Evap valve on the motor. I did notice that when I replaced the Evap valve, some pieces of charcoal came out of it. On my next oil change I am going to have my mechanic go back through the vent lines to see if there are any more pieces in the lines as well as drop the tank to see if that shield was removed.
I learned next time to replace the charcoal canister first because by doing the solenoid first, I am worried I have charcoal in a brand new one and will need to replace it again.
I learned next time to replace the charcoal canister first because by doing the solenoid first, I am worried I have charcoal in a brand new one and will need to replace it again.
#12
I had the same issue with my 07 Tahoe and replaced the standard parts as well with no luck, finally had to go ahead and drop the tank and blow air through the lines and a bunch of charcoal pellets came flying out of the lines once it stopped and only air was coming out I put it all back together and problem solved.
#14
I took mine in for these issues. Replaced the canister (2nd one), Evap solonoid, etc. Dropped tank and blew the lines free, lots of charcoal. I think it was about an hour of labor but took them 2 hrs to clear the lines. So for the line blowout only (no parts) you're looking at labor only. Depends on how clogged the lines are. I've had this done 3 times now.
That being said, my 05 is back in the shop now, as I could never get more than a few gallons in after the initial 2 repairs. 2nd canister saturated and replaced. Still no luck. Theyre saying I need a new tank because there are sensors inside the tank that contribute to the issue if they are bad. Sort of last resort. So I'm on the hunt for a tank replacement. Curious if anyone else solved the issue like this.
I've read a lot of posts and it seems that it's really an issue of troubleshooting. Could be the first obvious repairs but you can't fully know until those... Fail. Trying to keep my truck alive after all the typical issues for these - cylinder head leak, blower motor fail, all the fun hvac and electrical issues, sunroof leaks. She runs like a dream... If only she took fuel lol.
172k on my 2005 4wd 5.3 v8 with auto ride (auto ride died several years back)
That being said, my 05 is back in the shop now, as I could never get more than a few gallons in after the initial 2 repairs. 2nd canister saturated and replaced. Still no luck. Theyre saying I need a new tank because there are sensors inside the tank that contribute to the issue if they are bad. Sort of last resort. So I'm on the hunt for a tank replacement. Curious if anyone else solved the issue like this.
I've read a lot of posts and it seems that it's really an issue of troubleshooting. Could be the first obvious repairs but you can't fully know until those... Fail. Trying to keep my truck alive after all the typical issues for these - cylinder head leak, blower motor fail, all the fun hvac and electrical issues, sunroof leaks. She runs like a dream... If only she took fuel lol.
172k on my 2005 4wd 5.3 v8 with auto ride (auto ride died several years back)
Last edited by Ladylilu; April 28th, 2021 at 5:19 PM.
#15
Any help?
Ok, I'm desperate... I've replaced the canister (twice), the vent solenoid, blown the lines out (3 times) and finally just replaced the fuel tank and lines (fuel tank replaced and new canister at same time). Takes fuel now, but I got the small Evap leak code again today. 2 half-tank fill ups since repair
I don't even know what to do next. If anyone has nuggets of wisdom, I'd sure appreciate it.
I don't even know what to do next. If anyone has nuggets of wisdom, I'd sure appreciate it.
#16
Ok, I'm desperate... I've replaced the canister (twice), the vent solenoid, blown the lines out (3 times) and finally just replaced the fuel tank and lines (fuel tank replaced and new canister at same time). Takes fuel now, but I got the small Evap leak code again today. 2 half-tank fill ups since repair
I don't even know what to do next. If anyone has nuggets of wisdom, I'd sure appreciate it.
I don't even know what to do next. If anyone has nuggets of wisdom, I'd sure appreciate it.
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#17
2005 Tahoe 5.3L , 173k mi.
The last two posts in the thread are both from me, so there's a little more info on my situation.
New code is P0442 -
Evap system small leak detected
thank you!
The last two posts in the thread are both from me, so there's a little more info on my situation.
New code is P0442 -
Evap system small leak detected
thank you!
#18
question...how does the evap system determine a leak is present?
In your system, after the vehicle is shut off....the normally open vent solenoid is closed and the normally closed purge solenoid is left closed. this seals the system. the pcm monitors the fuel tank pressure sensor and expects a change is pressure ( due to heat soak). a leaking system would show little pressure change.
so if the expected psi change does not occur...the pcm thinks a leak is present.
-so the fault possibilities are: a leak is present or the ftp sensor reading is not changing.
-a shop could monitor the pressure sensor reading for change when the purge is open. if the reading changes, the sensor is ok, you probably have a leak. if it doesn't change the vac/psi reading...you may have a sensor or wiring problem to the sensor.
if the senor is good-smoke test the system...the evap smoke machine has a flow meter.....the shop closes the vent solenoid and fills the system thru the evap service port. They monitor the flow meter...if the flow meter zeros...no leak is present. if the flow meter does not zero...a leak is present. I would open the system at a easy access connection near the half way point and smoke both sides....one sid e will leak the other will seal....this eliminates 1/2 the system...the leak is on the other side. continue moving down the line untill you isolate the leak point.
#19
I just bought a 2007 Tahoe LT, 5.3l 4WD. the truck runs great, but I can't get gas into the tank. It's the same issues as posted here and other forums, the pump shuts off after about one gallon. Based on other recommendations, I've replaced the evap canister vent valve, the purge valve solenoid, and the charcoal canister. I've blown compressed air through the vent line attached to the fill neck, seems clear. I even dropped the filler neck to check for obstructions, nothing there.
I've tried different positions of the gas pump nozzle, no effect. It happens at every station, every pump.
when I had the filler neck off, I noticed a plastic spring-loaded "baffle" just inside the fuel tank neck. I assume this might be the roll-over protection or something similar. The piece seems to move freely, but doesn't come all the way out of the tank..... I wonder if this could be the problem, but it does move in and out without trouble.
I have checked all the lines I can see and reach for kinks or bends, everything seems normal.
I must admit, when I went to replace the evap canister vent valve, it looked brand new..... certainly not original. I guess the previous owner had the same trouble and tried all the standard tricks and parts.....
No trouble codes present or in history
There has to be something I'm missing.... any other ideas?
I've tried different positions of the gas pump nozzle, no effect. It happens at every station, every pump.
when I had the filler neck off, I noticed a plastic spring-loaded "baffle" just inside the fuel tank neck. I assume this might be the roll-over protection or something similar. The piece seems to move freely, but doesn't come all the way out of the tank..... I wonder if this could be the problem, but it does move in and out without trouble.
I have checked all the lines I can see and reach for kinks or bends, everything seems normal.
I must admit, when I went to replace the evap canister vent valve, it looked brand new..... certainly not original. I guess the previous owner had the same trouble and tried all the standard tricks and parts.....
No trouble codes present or in history
There has to be something I'm missing.... any other ideas?
#20
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