so you are saying that the customer is too dumb read a code that says engine misfire. and by putting the code where the average code reader wont work you must go back to the dealership that over charges for everything..

 

"average code reader" is what? I've never seen a code reader that won't pull p codes and any shop that does diag can pull the codes they need, hell any person that buys a real scanner can do it. The general public can't even pop their own hood and fill washer fluid so yes I don't believe or trust most customers to be able to diagnose anything on their own, same reason tpms systems had to become a regulation because drivers are too lazy or incompetent to make sure their tires arent flat.


Not to mention there are literally thousands of things that can cause a malfunction indicator to come on not just a misfire.


your comment about overcharge is tough to debate because it varies case by case and by location but if you had any idea what kind of expense it is to run a shop/dealer or even try to make a living as a tech you wouldn't be so quick to speak.

 

Call nhtsa at 8883274236 and report so a recall will be initiated. The more complaints they receive, the more likely they will investigate. I'm have same problems. Went to dealership for the third time today and I am sick of it!