Rough idle; miss when driven light
#1
Rough idle; miss when driven light
My old Astro, driven by son in law, 2000 AWD cargo w/ 152000 miles.
He complains that the truck misses badly. History, coil burnt up at 130,000, replaced coil, cap, plugs...Fuel pump failed at 140000.
Read codes, found multiple cylinder misfire code P0300?. O2 sensor not ready, cat not ready, HO2 not ready. Evap system not ready.
Saw (3) O2 sensors, left, right and rear. Ended up replacing right and rear sensors after nor reading any resistance on sensor during operation.
This reduced the system information to HO2 not ready, evap system not ready.
Couple of questions:
Is the HO2 the left O2 sensor?
Is their a shrader valve to test fuel pressure, I looked but lost the daylight by then? Where is it?(engine idles rough)
Is their a common vacuum leak area?(engine idles rough)
I think that the 'computer' looks for the sensors before going from open loop to closed loop, is that correct.
Thanks for the help.
He complains that the truck misses badly. History, coil burnt up at 130,000, replaced coil, cap, plugs...Fuel pump failed at 140000.
Read codes, found multiple cylinder misfire code P0300?. O2 sensor not ready, cat not ready, HO2 not ready. Evap system not ready.
Saw (3) O2 sensors, left, right and rear. Ended up replacing right and rear sensors after nor reading any resistance on sensor during operation.
This reduced the system information to HO2 not ready, evap system not ready.
Couple of questions:
Is the HO2 the left O2 sensor?
Is their a shrader valve to test fuel pressure, I looked but lost the daylight by then? Where is it?(engine idles rough)
Is their a common vacuum leak area?(engine idles rough)
I think that the 'computer' looks for the sensors before going from open loop to closed loop, is that correct.
Thanks for the help.
#2
I also had a 2000 with this problem. The P0300 is usually caused by dirty fuel injectors. In my case doing a Seafoam treatment solved the issue, so I'd try that first. If the Seafoam doesn't work GM has some stronger stuff called GM Fuel System Treatment Plus, but it's like $30 a bottle.
The other thing that will cause the P0300 is worn distributor gear/bushing.
I'd focus on the P0300 before touching anything else, as the not ready statuses are usually the computer needing to see GM's drive cycle.
I currently don't think fuel pressure is an issue for you, but the valve is under the engine cover on the left/rear side of the engine.
The other thing that will cause the P0300 is worn distributor gear/bushing.
I'd focus on the P0300 before touching anything else, as the not ready statuses are usually the computer needing to see GM's drive cycle.
I currently don't think fuel pressure is an issue for you, but the valve is under the engine cover on the left/rear side of the engine.
#5
How to evaluate worn distributer gear / bushing
SIL tried to demonstrate the miss to me on recent night. Truck ran fine. He said the the fuel gauge needle moved around and that mechanic told him it was intergral to the fuel pump. That had me thinking about fuel pump.
Seafoam and gas treatment are worth a try and can't hurt.
To evaluate the dist. bush do you look for play shaft twisting or sideways movement or just replace the dist while you have it open. I'll have a few hours on Sunday to make checks.
Seafoam and gas treatment are worth a try and can't hurt.
To evaluate the dist. bush do you look for play shaft twisting or sideways movement or just replace the dist while you have it open. I'll have a few hours on Sunday to make checks.
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#8
Cap and Rotor Weekend
Will replace the cap and rotor this weekend. Can't find ac delco without 5 day wait. Going with NAPA's best. If it cures the problem for the short term, that's it.
Will post results.
Will post results.
#9
Cap and Rotor it is
Changed the cap and rotor, and the motor has not had a mis-fit all week. I was doubtful, but the proof is in the driving. Thanks for the help.
O2 sensor - not
fuel pressure - not
spark plugs - not
O2 sensor - not
fuel pressure - not
spark plugs - not