Paint issues?
#41
Was just thinking 'bout this issue and realized, the high top eliminates any roof paint (there are a couple wind/sun worn patches up there). Also has a bug guard on the hood and some vinyl/rubber/aluminum trim along fenders and running boards. Maybe these little "accessories" saved my white.
#43
Hopefully, they have a replacement for the Chevy Volt in the works. Full internal combustion motors gasoline powered motors seem to be slowly phasing out over the years, it would seem.
#45
The gasoline motor could be even more efficient with an electronically controlled vapor injection system. Proof of concept is viable in smaller motors such as lawn mowers. The nuclear source could be done better also. A liquid sodium plant ran in the desert for decades with little to no issues. Navy designed a water cooled system and here are with water cooled on land instead. I hear Mr. Gates is throwing money at a newer design (sodium cooled again) that uses already depleted uranium (plenty of that available) and are buried underground, 0 maintenance system. A bit off topic, I know. More on topic, my hood has finally started chipping away in tiny circles from getting sand blasted on the highway.
Last edited by Beau Oszman; August 16th, 2019 at 10:37 PM.
#46
My mistake, then. I really like the looks of the Chevy Volt. Don't know where I heard that Chevrolet was discontinuing the Volt, but I am very glad to hear that Chevrolet is keeping it in the lineup for their new cars.
#48
2 Chevrolet Express vans 1999 & 2006
I think the paint peeling is especially a problem in the south. We live in southern Alabama, and we were very reluctant to buy a white van for this reason. There are probably 20-30 vans in our area that have significant amounts of paint missing on their hood, roof, and other body panels (they are really popular around here with contractors, churches, etc). We also had friends who lived in NY, with their Express, before moving to our area; within a couple years, their paint started peeling. Since we weren't in love with white when we bought our van (not just because of the peeling paint), I see it as an opportunity to get the color we want when the van starts to look ugly.
Midwest 1999 & 2006 both peeling hoods & 99 started peeling on door
#49
In 2012, I had one rear passenger door removed, sanded to the bare metal and repainted. This was due to heavy rainfalls in 2011... a water bubble formed under the base coat and popped like a balloon -- leaving just the ePrimer exposed. When moisture gets under the base coat it starts to bubble and peel in sheets.
As I digress for a moment... we can debate with GM how moisture leeches under the clear coat and base coat, via rock chips, etc. -- bottom line, GM is spraying very thin layers on the white commercial vans due to expected high mileage over a relatively short period of time. Not to mention, white fleet service vehicles typically get wrapped and branded with company logos. I read the MB Sprinter had similar issues.
Back to my 2002 Express ordeal...
In 2015 the remaining factory paint started peeling from the top down. Then surface rust started to appear on the roof.. it's my understanding the sheet metal on the roof is different than the side panels. I read somewhere the roof isn't galvanized. The body shop said it doesn't matter.
In 2018, we had more record rainfalls in California and on the rear driver side door, I saw another water bubble form under the base coat.. again, it popped like a balloon leaving exposed factory ePrimer. After the water bubble burst, the peeling grew, affecting a larger surface area. You can see what happens over time -- compare the driver and passenger side rear doors.
The passenger side rear door was repainted in 2012.
I currently have it in the shop for a complete paint job. Everything is being sanded to the bare metal, treated, re-primed with self-etching primer, and sprayed with base coat and clear coat.
Here's what it looked like before signing the repair order...
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Last edited by C6DNA; November 11th, 2019 at 1:51 AM.
#50
Here are photos taken in 2015... compare with photos above and see the progressive deterioration over four years.
I really struggled whether or not I should spend the money to have this van repainted -- one reason I procrastinated. I ordered this new as a company vehicle with the optional 8.1L Vortech and 4L85E transmission. I also ordered a 3.73 posi rear diff.. with HD trailering package. Its fullly loaded with all options and was upfitted by Commercial Van Interiors with eTrack -- as you can see in the photos.
The company sold the van to me for $3600 in 2008. It had 10K miles and was in perfect condition. I use it sparingly for hauling and short trips -- it runs perfect. If this 3500 Express didn't have the 8.1L Vortech coupled to the 4L85E trans and had more than 28K miles and there was significant body work to be performed, I would have cut my losses.
The 8.1L with HD driveline can't be ordered now and would cost $40K for a new 2019 Express that would sit parked most of the time -- so there's my financial justification to spend the money and save this 2002 Chevrolet Express.
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I really struggled whether or not I should spend the money to have this van repainted -- one reason I procrastinated. I ordered this new as a company vehicle with the optional 8.1L Vortech and 4L85E transmission. I also ordered a 3.73 posi rear diff.. with HD trailering package. Its fullly loaded with all options and was upfitted by Commercial Van Interiors with eTrack -- as you can see in the photos.
The company sold the van to me for $3600 in 2008. It had 10K miles and was in perfect condition. I use it sparingly for hauling and short trips -- it runs perfect. If this 3500 Express didn't have the 8.1L Vortech coupled to the 4L85E trans and had more than 28K miles and there was significant body work to be performed, I would have cut my losses.
The 8.1L with HD driveline can't be ordered now and would cost $40K for a new 2019 Express that would sit parked most of the time -- so there's my financial justification to spend the money and save this 2002 Chevrolet Express.
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