oldchevy

Does the auto stop option if left active all the time wear out the starter quicker than normal?

tech2

depends on the design....what does the vehicle use for restarts? some use a special alternator/generator starter for the stop start system. Some use a special heavy duty starter made for this purpose...either way...its not a normal starter. The engineer has factored is for this. post the model info in question and i will look it up.
if you hate the system they are modules out there, in the aftermarket, to disable it.

oldchevy

It is for 2021 Silverado with the 5.3 and no DFM.

david starr

A starter sitting on the shelf of the parts department will never wear out. A starter used on a start stop vehicle will wear out sooner than a normal one. I have a 2021 Silverado 5.3 with start stop. My research tells me that it has a more expensive starter than my 2015 truck had, most likely heaver duty. I installed a start stop eliminator with the thought that it might allow the HD starter to last the life of the truck, instead of having to be replaced at around 100k miles.

tech2

Enhanced Starter Motor Operation (KL9)

The Engine Stop/Start system in GM vehicles automatically turns off the engine when the vehicle comes to a stop under certain driving conditions, and can quickly restart the engine in about 0.3 seconds when commanded to do so.

In order to smoothly restart the engine as quickly as possible while managing the greater number of engine starts, the Stop/Start system uses an enhanced starter motor that operates differently from a conventional starter motor. It has a high performance electric motor and a stronger pinion engagement mechanism than a conventional starter. It also has independent control of the pinion and motor.

The enhanced starter motor continues using the typical pinion engagement mechanism with a starter solenoid that drives the pinion gear to engage or disengage the flywheel of the engine. When engaged, the starter motor can rotate the engine flywheel and, in turn, the crankshaft.

On the enhanced starter of a Stop/Start system the operation is done in two separate functions inside the solenoid, Starter Motor and Pinion Actuator. Each function controlled individually by the ECM. There are two separate relays to control the two separate parts of the enhanced solenoid:

• KR27 Starter Motor Relay
• KR27C Starter Pinion Actuator Relay

The two individually-controlled relays allow for smooth engagement of the pinion gear into the flywheel with minimum noise and wear.

When the vehicle is coming to a stop, just before the engine stops rotating (at approximately 50 RPM) during stop/start operation, the ECM energizes the Starter Pinion Solenoid Actuator Relay to easily push the pinion gear into the flywheel gear without gear clash. (Fig. 8) When the engine stops rotating during Stop/Start operation (Auto Stop mode), the starter pinion gear is fully engaged, ready for the starter motor to become energized to quickly start the engine again.

A secondary need for the starter pinion to be driven into the flywheel gear before the engine stops rotating is to address quickly changing demands on the engine. For example, when a driver is slowing nearly to a stop — and the Stop/Start system is preparing for Auto Stop mode — but suddenly decides to release the brake and accelerate

In this situation, the engine has already stopped rotating, or nearly so. A conventional starter cannot restart the engine until the engine has completely stopped. However, with the enhanced starter, the starter pinion gear is fully engaged and ready to begin rotating the engine even before it fully stops turning. Otherwise, the engine would actually have to stop rotating before the pinion can engage smoothly to begin a restart.

To prevent a lag in engine operation, the ECM uses predictive speed matching of the flywheel gear speed and the pinion gear speed to engage the pinion gear into the flywheel gear without gear clash before the engine fully stops. By predicting how long it takes the starter motor to spin up using an algorithm, the pinion gear speed can be matched to the flywheel gear speed. The result is an almost instant restart that is possible at extremely low engine speeds.

oldchevy

Thank You. It's a bit more complicated than I thought it was.