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Old Nov 14, 2023 | 11:10 AM
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Default 2009 Tahoe radio won't turn off

Gene, did you ever get this fixed? That was my same question, If it is non-servicable,
then how is it able to be fixed?

Originally Posted by genestoy
So, the way I am understanding the "issue" I have is that the radio is not turning off (intermittently) when the drivers door is opened. Opening another door has no effect on shutting down the radio so that "supposedly" eliminates the door switch itself and points to the RAP relay? So if that relay is non-serviceable what do you do?
Thanks, Gene
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Old Nov 14, 2023 | 2:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Lisamarie14
Gene, did you ever get this fixed? That was my same question, If it is non-servicable,
then how is it able to be fixed?
The post is 8 years old. Gene hasn't visited the forum since then. I don't think they will answer you.

Same question as before, though. Does your dome light go out when you open the door? Have you tried all the doors?
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Old Feb 2, 2024 | 6:00 PM
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Originally Posted by in2pro
• The RAP/Spare relay is permanently soldered to the left I/P junction block and is non-serviceable.

• The RAP mode for the radio and door modules is a separate function and will still operate properly.





Service Information
2007 Chevrolet Tahoe - 2WD | Avalanche, Escalade, Suburban, Tahoe, Yukon (VIN C/K) Service Manual | Document ID: 1672944
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Retained Accessory Power Description and Operation
Retained Accessory Power (RAP)
The retained accessory power (RAP) system allows specific vehicle functions to operate for a specific amount of time after the ignition switch is turned OFF. The BCM monitors the ignition switch position, battery condition, and each door open/closed status to determine whether RAP should be initiated or terminated. RAP is controlled with 2 different methods; serial data and relay control. The relay is internal to the BCM and feeds multiple external components. Some modules receive a RAP message over the serial data circuits. Serial data controlled RAP is deactivated as required by their modules RAP power mode operation. Other subsystems are activated directly by the BCM through the internal RAP relay. Components and systems that are active in RAP are also activated anytime the ignition is any position other than OFF regardless of the door switch signals.

The BCM sends a serial data power mode message ending the RAP function when one of the following conditions are met:

• The BCM receives an input indicating the opening of any passenger compartment door after the ignition key is out of the ignition.


Important: The only door that will turn off the radio during RAP is the driver door. This is a function of the radio and will still turn off after the time limit.


• The BCM internal timer for RAP expires after approximately 10 minutes.

• The BCM detects a decrease in battery voltage below a calibrated limit.

Relay Control of Retained Accessory Power (RAP)
The body control module (BCM) keeps the internal RAP relay energized during all power modes, except Off-Awake and Crank. The relay is also energized for approximately 10 minutes after shutting the ignition OFF and removing the key, providing no door is opened. The BCM will de-energize the internal RAP relay at the same time the serial data message is sent to end RAP. When the internal RAP relay is energized voltage is applied on the accessory voltage circuit at BCM harness connector X5 terminal 11.

The devices powered by the internal RAP relay during the RAP power mode are the sunroof (CF5), the RAP/Spare PCB relay, and if equipped with RPO 9L4, the radio module fuse block relay A.

Serial Data Control of Retained Accessory Power (RAP)
RAP systems controlled by serial data are as follows:

Power Windows
Window RAP activation/termination timing is the same as relay operation. The front window switches are separate modules that operate the windows on their respective side of the vehicle.

Vehicle Communication Interface Module (VCIM) (Onstar®)
VCIM RAP activation/termination is the same as radio operation with 1 exception; if there is an active call when the ignition key is turned off the VCIM will remain in RAP mode and keep the radio in RAP mode until the call is terminated.

Radio
Radio RAP activation/termination is the same as relay operation with 1 exception; the only door switch that will turn off the radio during RAP is the driver door open switch.
would the RAP FUSE keep the radio on all the time even when all the kill switches are activated?
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Old Feb 2, 2024 | 6:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbaldridge
would the RAP FUSE keep the radio on all the time even when all the kill switches are activated?
Yes. What kill switches?
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Old Mar 5, 2025 | 12:46 PM
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Default Rap/nvm the 8-year-old post. So my dome light does not click on us go off when openin

Originally Posted by mountainmanjoe
The post is 8 years old. Gene hasn't visited the forum since then. I don't think they will answer you.

Same question as before, though. Does your dome light go out when you open the door? Have you tried all the doors?
The dome light does not kick off or come on when opening driver door I've checked the BCM fuse it's fine. What would be my other option a spliced wire in the door jamb. Everything is stock
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Old Apr 8, 2026 | 7:32 AM
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I realize this is an old post. Hoping I can jump in and get some additional info as I have the issue of the radio not shutting off when the key is removed/dirver door opened. This just started occurring. Upon turning off engine, removing key and exiting door, radio stays on. Tried pulling the 15 amp radio fuse to reset, but radio will still stay on. Doors lock/unlock, dome lights dim and shut off normally. I manually turn off radio (but clock/time still illuminated). After 5-7 minutes, radio clock turns off.
Any other things to look at. Thanks.
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