Rough Running Chevy
The scan tool also shows 128 on the fuel trim.
EDIT: Forgot to mention that the scan tool also says it it's running in open loop mode.
Last edited by fiterpilot; Mar 6, 2020 at 6:10 PM.
15-16 psi is higher than I’ve heard of in these years, usually people are struggling because fuel pressure is low. How/ where did you measure?
I’ve not experience on high fuel pressure and whether it can be caused by a stuck fuel pressure regulator or not. Hopefully someone with experience will respond on that one.
Did you look at spray pattern from injectors when idling? Should be no drips, spray pattern uniform.
trim will always be 128 when in open loop. Does it ever go into closed loop when driving or after warmed up?
I’ve not experience on high fuel pressure and whether it can be caused by a stuck fuel pressure regulator or not. Hopefully someone with experience will respond on that one.
Did you look at spray pattern from injectors when idling? Should be no drips, spray pattern uniform.
trim will always be 128 when in open loop. Does it ever go into closed loop when driving or after warmed up?
15-16 psi is higher than I’ve heard of in these years, usually people are struggling because fuel pressure is low. How/ where did you measure?
I’ve not experience on high fuel pressure and whether it can be caused by a stuck fuel pressure regulator or not. Hopefully someone with experience will respond on that one.
Did you look at spray pattern from injectors when idling? Should be no drips, spray pattern uniform.
trim will always be 128 when in open loop. Does it ever go into closed loop when driving or after warmed up?
I’ve not experience on high fuel pressure and whether it can be caused by a stuck fuel pressure regulator or not. Hopefully someone with experience will respond on that one.
Did you look at spray pattern from injectors when idling? Should be no drips, spray pattern uniform.
trim will always be 128 when in open loop. Does it ever go into closed loop when driving or after warmed up?
Spray pattern looks fine to me. There isn't any drip and it is a consistent flow.
I will have to drive it around a little more to see if it goes into closed loop ever or not.
The reason I was curious if it ever gets into closed loop driving is that to stay in closed loop the ECM has to be able to drive the O2 between rich and lean. I don’t have experience with a too rich condition but if the fuel pressure regulator was messed up causing a too rich situation, I would guess it would go into closed loop and then try to lean it out. You’d see trim/blm go down and either it’d be able to drive it lean and you’d have low trims or it wouldn’t be able to get it lean enough ( below something like 400mv) and it’d drop out of closed loop.
If, during idle when it doesn’t go into closed loop, if the O2 is always high - perhaps that is another indication.
typically, you’re looking for ~11-13 psi which is set by pressure regulator. So I would suppose a good fuel pump would be able to deliver more if regulator was frozen or ?
if you are always too rich and no one suggests something based on actual knowledge or experience - I’d probably open up the TBI.
If, during idle when it doesn’t go into closed loop, if the O2 is always high - perhaps that is another indication.
typically, you’re looking for ~11-13 psi which is set by pressure regulator. So I would suppose a good fuel pump would be able to deliver more if regulator was frozen or ?
if you are always too rich and no one suggests something based on actual knowledge or experience - I’d probably open up the TBI.
The reason I was curious if it ever gets into closed loop driving is that to stay in closed loop the ECM has to be able to drive the O2 between rich and lean. I don’t have experience with a too rich condition but if the fuel pressure regulator was messed up causing a too rich situation, I would guess it would go into closed loop and then try to lean it out. You’d see trim/blm go down and either it’d be able to drive it lean and you’d have low trims or it wouldn’t be able to get it lean enough ( below something like 400mv) and it’d drop out of closed loop.
If, during idle when it doesn’t go into closed loop, if the O2 is always high - perhaps that is another indication.
typically, you’re looking for ~11-13 psi which is set by pressure regulator. So I would suppose a good fuel pump would be able to deliver more if regulator was frozen or ?
if you are always too rich and no one suggests something based on actual knowledge or experience - I’d probably open up the TBI.
If, during idle when it doesn’t go into closed loop, if the O2 is always high - perhaps that is another indication.
typically, you’re looking for ~11-13 psi which is set by pressure regulator. So I would suppose a good fuel pump would be able to deliver more if regulator was frozen or ?
if you are always too rich and no one suggests something based on actual knowledge or experience - I’d probably open up the TBI.
Last edited by fiterpilot; Mar 9, 2020 at 5:00 PM.
I looked at that, the resistance is within spec. I almost wonder if it isn't the distributor itself.
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