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Old Oct 21, 2023 | 4:39 PM
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2001 2500HD 4L80E, 6.0 - After winter a couple of years ago, the transmission started shifting hard (really hard). I figured out that when the trans temp reached 150 and I shut it off for a couple of mins, the shifting would return to normal. Changed fluids, no help. This year I replaced the transmission, but I still have the same issue. Any thoughts?
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Old Oct 21, 2023 | 5:04 PM
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what did you replace it with? Did you replace the torque converter?

Did you reset transmission adaptations?

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Old Oct 23, 2023 | 11:20 AM
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Yes the torque converter was changed with the transmission
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Old Oct 23, 2023 | 1:15 PM
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used or reman?
you might have an issue with your TCM/PCM
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Old Oct 23, 2023 | 1:46 PM
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The torque converter came with the transmission. Not sure the TC is the issue as we had the same issue with both. I'm pretty sure I cleared the adaptions. Key on, depress accelerator for 15 seconds, turn key off, releases accelerator. wait a couple of mins before restarting. Does the 2001 2500HD have a separate TCM. or is it embedded in the PCM?
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Old Oct 23, 2023 | 2:31 PM
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I'm asking if the transmission you installed (you or a mechanic?) was a used or re-manufactured unit.
I've never heard of that reset procedure and I wouldn't trust it. I would use a diagnostic tool where I can see it and get confirmation.
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Old Oct 23, 2023 | 5:41 PM
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Originally Posted by maverick040759
Does the 2001 2500HD have a separate TCM.
Your 4L80 control is performed by the Powertrain Control Module (PCM)

Instructions for transmission replacement:
Important: It is recommended that transmission adaptive pressure (TAP) information be reset.
Resetting the TAP values using a scan tool will erase all learned values in all cells. As a result, The ECM, PCM or TCM will need to relearn TAP values. Transmission performance may be affected as new TAP values are learned.
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Old Oct 23, 2023 | 6:24 PM
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I will look into to tool to reset the adaptive learning. The only reason I countered the TC being reman or new is that it is the exact same issue, so in my mind it wouldn't matter if it was new or not. Something a little off or different, I can see needing to know. Same with the transmission. I'm pretty sure it something outside of those two items. If you have other information that can sway me, please let me know. I will let you know about the reset with a scan tool. Thank you
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Old Oct 23, 2023 | 6:59 PM
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I ask because if you install a used unit then you just end up with somebody else's problems. And hard shifting is pretty common on old, well used transmissions.
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Old Oct 23, 2023 | 7:24 PM
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Do they go away after the trans temp reaches 150 (and shut down the engine for a couple of mins)?
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