Blinking SRS 7 times then OFF. Normal?
January 9th, 2016, 6:25 PM
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sounds a lot like the guy I know that swore seatbelts were a joke who just happens to be in a wheel chair now from being thrown out of his pickup when he rolled, I guess to each their own I just hope you atleast let anyone that rides with you know that you've disabled things designed to protect them.
When I was in middle school I had a friend that removed the brake from his scooter and never told me until the day I borrowed it and left skin halfway down the hill, lesson learned I guess.
When I was in middle school I had a friend that removed the brake from his scooter and never told me until the day I borrowed it and left skin halfway down the hill, lesson learned I guess.
January 10th, 2016, 12:39 AM
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name calling will get u banned. banned before yes?
You did not post a question. You made a statement that may of had some merit when airbags were first introduced 25 years ago. Engineers have addressed these issues and crash test data from both low and high speed collisions confirm this.
readers without knowledge of modern pps and dual stage system operation may take your post as fact. This is what I challenge.
You most certainly can have an opinion. Sometimes, you may even get a response on a public internet forum.
You did not post a question. You made a statement that may of had some merit when airbags were first introduced 25 years ago. Engineers have addressed these issues and crash test data from both low and high speed collisions confirm this.
readers without knowledge of modern pps and dual stage system operation may take your post as fact. This is what I challenge.
You most certainly can have an opinion. Sometimes, you may even get a response on a public internet forum.
Cardiac and Pulmonary Injuries with airbags
Air bags can cause significant cardiac and pulmonary injuries. In this article, “Airbag Deployment Can Cause ‘Hidden’ Cardiac Injuries”, it is stated that airbag deployment can cause injuries such as aortic transection, tricuspid-valve injury, right atrial rupture, cardiac contusion, MI, aortic-valve avulsion, cardiac tamponade, and hemopericardium. These injuries may not be readily apparent after an accident. It is very important that you ask your doctor about these potential injuries after a motor vehicle accident.
Rib and Sternal Fractures with air bags
The blunt force trauma to the chest which often occurs after an airbag deploys can be a significant injury. The injury can lead to pathological fracture, no lie. A pathological fracture is one that weakens the bone and leads to long term problems keeping the bone strong and intact. A pathological fracture is a very serious injury that can lead to long term health problems. It will also dramatically increase the amount you should ask for in a personal injury settlement. If you do have a chest fracture of any kind you should consult with your doctor as to whether or not the fracture will lead to a weakening of the bone.
Airbags are inflated as quickly as they are based off of a chemical reaction. Heat is needed to generate the combustion of air that fills the airbag. For that reason the inhalation of chemicals can cause serious medical problems. This study, “Airbag pneumonits: a report and discussion of a new clinical entity” details the story of a young man who developed shortness of breath and mild pneumonia after inhaling chemicals from a deployed airbag.
Another danger is the gas emitted from an airbag after its deployment. An airbag’s material allows for chemicals to flow through the fabric and into the vehicle after an accident. These gasses can lead to chemical burns and the onset of asthmatic like symptoms. The most dangerous situations occur when the driver or passenger remains in the vehicle for a longer amount of time after the accident. This generally occurs when a driver or passenger is unconscious from the accident and is left in the car for a significant amount of time.
Air bags can cause significant cardiac and pulmonary injuries. In this article, “Airbag Deployment Can Cause ‘Hidden’ Cardiac Injuries”, it is stated that airbag deployment can cause injuries such as aortic transection, tricuspid-valve injury, right atrial rupture, cardiac contusion, MI, aortic-valve avulsion, cardiac tamponade, and hemopericardium. These injuries may not be readily apparent after an accident. It is very important that you ask your doctor about these potential injuries after a motor vehicle accident.
Rib and Sternal Fractures with air bags
The blunt force trauma to the chest which often occurs after an airbag deploys can be a significant injury. The injury can lead to pathological fracture, no lie. A pathological fracture is one that weakens the bone and leads to long term problems keeping the bone strong and intact. A pathological fracture is a very serious injury that can lead to long term health problems. It will also dramatically increase the amount you should ask for in a personal injury settlement. If you do have a chest fracture of any kind you should consult with your doctor as to whether or not the fracture will lead to a weakening of the bone.
Airbags are inflated as quickly as they are based off of a chemical reaction. Heat is needed to generate the combustion of air that fills the airbag. For that reason the inhalation of chemicals can cause serious medical problems. This study, “Airbag pneumonits: a report and discussion of a new clinical entity” details the story of a young man who developed shortness of breath and mild pneumonia after inhaling chemicals from a deployed airbag.
Another danger is the gas emitted from an airbag after its deployment. An airbag’s material allows for chemicals to flow through the fabric and into the vehicle after an accident. These gasses can lead to chemical burns and the onset of asthmatic like symptoms. The most dangerous situations occur when the driver or passenger remains in the vehicle for a longer amount of time after the accident. This generally occurs when a driver or passenger is unconscious from the accident and is left in the car for a significant amount of time.
sounds a lot like the guy I know that swore seatbelts were a joke who just happens to be in a wheel chair now from being thrown out of his pickup when he rolled, I guess to each their own I just hope you atleast let anyone that rides with you know that you've disabled things designed to protect them.
When I was in middle school I had a friend that removed the brake from his scooter and never told me until the day I borrowed it and left skin halfway down the hill, lesson learned I guess.
When I was in middle school I had a friend that removed the brake from his scooter and never told me until the day I borrowed it and left skin halfway down the hill, lesson learned I guess.
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January 10th, 2016, 8:03 AM
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Mass Industry use began in the late 80's and I thought that is what we were discussing.
NaN3 is used only in the driver side airbag. It does generate heat but that heat never reaches the driver. the airbag is already deflating by the time the driver hits it. the only precipitate in the air is talcum powder, I inhaled it everyday raising my baby.
the back of the air bag module I have measured 160*C immediately after deployment.
Some people may have a reaction to NaN3 but incidence rate is lower than the average populations to that of a vaccine. So maybe you have a rash for a few days but your not in a wheelchair.
Rib Fractures
research the timing events of air bags and seatbelts. the systems are designed to work together. when seatbelts are not buckled, it mistimes the proper functioning of the system. That is a user failure not a design problem.
So what is the alternative, my co-worker is a firefighter. the one story that I will never forget if that of a driver who wasn't wearing a seatbelt and hit the steering wheel. he went to do chest compressions but the entire sternum was broken at every rib. An airbag at full force, even hitting it at the wrong time...still safer that a steering wheel.
The information I have presented is not mine but rather from motive power industry training.
Maybe this thread will raise airbag safety awareness.
NaN3 is used only in the driver side airbag. It does generate heat but that heat never reaches the driver. the airbag is already deflating by the time the driver hits it. the only precipitate in the air is talcum powder, I inhaled it everyday raising my baby.
the back of the air bag module I have measured 160*C immediately after deployment.
Some people may have a reaction to NaN3 but incidence rate is lower than the average populations to that of a vaccine. So maybe you have a rash for a few days but your not in a wheelchair.
Rib Fractures
research the timing events of air bags and seatbelts. the systems are designed to work together. when seatbelts are not buckled, it mistimes the proper functioning of the system. That is a user failure not a design problem.
So what is the alternative, my co-worker is a firefighter. the one story that I will never forget if that of a driver who wasn't wearing a seatbelt and hit the steering wheel. he went to do chest compressions but the entire sternum was broken at every rib. An airbag at full force, even hitting it at the wrong time...still safer that a steering wheel.
The information I have presented is not mine but rather from motive power industry training.
Maybe this thread will raise airbag safety awareness.
Last edited by tech2; January 10th, 2016 at 8:06 AM.
January 10th, 2016, 8:17 AM
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Mass Industry use began in the late 80's and I thought that is what we were discussing.
NaN3 is used only in the driver side airbag. It does generate heat but that heat never reaches the driver. the airbag is already deflating by the time the driver hits it. the only precipitate in the air is talcum powder, I inhaled it everyday raising my baby.
the back of the air bag module I have measured 160*C immediately after deployment.
Some people may have a reaction to NaN3 but incidence rate is lower than the average populations to that of a vaccine. So maybe you have a rash for a few days but your not in a wheelchair.
Rib Fractures
research the timing events of air bags and seatbelts. the systems are designed to work together. when seatbelts are not buckled, it mistimes the proper functioning of the system. That is a user failure not a design problem.
So what is the alternative, my co-worker is a firefighter. the one story that I will never forget if that of a driver who wasn't wearing a seatbelt and hit the steering wheel. he went to do chest compressions but the entire sternum was broken at every rib. An airbag at full force, even hitting it at the wrong time...still safer that a steering wheel.
The information I have presented is not mine but rather from motive power industry training.
Maybe this thread will raise airbag safety awareness.
NaN3 is used only in the driver side airbag. It does generate heat but that heat never reaches the driver. the airbag is already deflating by the time the driver hits it. the only precipitate in the air is talcum powder, I inhaled it everyday raising my baby.
the back of the air bag module I have measured 160*C immediately after deployment.
Some people may have a reaction to NaN3 but incidence rate is lower than the average populations to that of a vaccine. So maybe you have a rash for a few days but your not in a wheelchair.
Rib Fractures
research the timing events of air bags and seatbelts. the systems are designed to work together. when seatbelts are not buckled, it mistimes the proper functioning of the system. That is a user failure not a design problem.
So what is the alternative, my co-worker is a firefighter. the one story that I will never forget if that of a driver who wasn't wearing a seatbelt and hit the steering wheel. he went to do chest compressions but the entire sternum was broken at every rib. An airbag at full force, even hitting it at the wrong time...still safer that a steering wheel.
The information I have presented is not mine but rather from motive power industry training.
Maybe this thread will raise airbag safety awareness.
January 10th, 2016, 11:10 AM
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airbags aren't designed for people who don't wear seatbelts, the whole point of sir/srs/orc systems is to work together collectively to prevent you from flying around and into objects.
I can already tell this is an open ended never ending "debate". Drinking too much water can be dangerous I guess we better quit drinking it huh?
I can already tell this is an open ended never ending "debate". Drinking too much water can be dangerous I guess we better quit drinking it huh?
January 10th, 2016, 9:25 PM
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the airbag module monitors these inputs: vehicle speed, seat position, occupant weight and if the occupant is wearing a seatbelt. From this data, the system will determines if a stage 1 or stage 2 deployment occurs.
the system works best with seatbelts...why...because they have the crash event timed out....the airbag should be deflating by the time the occupant hits it...with no seatbelt you hit it too soon. the pretentioner is designed to take up seatbelt slack and slow your momentum into the airbag.
The engineers had to enhance the new systems for dum dums that do not wear seat belts...hence all the new sensors.
what's next friend?
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January 11th, 2016, 9:08 PM
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Didn't I say not to get him started?
Because lawyers are always so trustworthy...a group that can take a set of facts and convincingly twist them to make 1 person for and then twist the other way to make another person against. I'm guessing that information was fabricated for a lawsuit to make something with a 0.00001% chance of happening into something everybody should fear as having a 99.99999% chance of happening.
Because lawyers are always so trustworthy...a group that can take a set of facts and convincingly twist them to make 1 person for and then twist the other way to make another person against. I'm guessing that information was fabricated for a lawsuit to make something with a 0.00001% chance of happening into something everybody should fear as having a 99.99999% chance of happening.
January 12th, 2016, 8:32 AM
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everyone can have an opinion. As long as they can present a logical argument based on fact...more power to them.
there are always small instances that in which any safety system will work against you. If I was upside down n a burning truck...you better believe getting that button pressed to release the seatbelt buckle, with all your weight on it; will be a challenge. For the other 99.9% of collisions, I want the seat belt on.
there are always small instances that in which any safety system will work against you. If I was upside down n a burning truck...you better believe getting that button pressed to release the seatbelt buckle, with all your weight on it; will be a challenge. For the other 99.9% of collisions, I want the seat belt on.