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How-where to test fuel pump-press on 89 Cheyenne 350

Old Oct 9, 2021 | 9:03 AM
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It is after all, an 89 and if the fuel pump has never been replaced, like us, the pump gets tired too !
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Old Oct 9, 2021 | 9:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Trying2drive
Can fuel pump be "weak" or is it a condition of "working" or NOT working? If it is not working I would not be able to even keep the engine running ...right???
Yes. Internal components (mechanical and electrical) can wear out and reduce the pumps ability to produce both pressure and volume, and either one can affect drive ability.

A pump that’s wearing out can produce good pressure but not enough volume, and the inverse is also true.



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Old Oct 9, 2021 | 4:30 PM
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on top of that theres a little section of rubber hose between the pump and assembly that will crack due to the ethanol in fuel now days. if it cracks it will pump like normal but it will lose pressure at the crack. this can make the engine run lean or even spit and sputter when you try to take off but idle fine

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Old Oct 10, 2021 | 7:53 AM
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Can you tell me where on the engine is this little black hose?
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Old Oct 10, 2021 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Trying2drive
Can you tell me where on the engine is this little black hose?
The hose being referred to is internal to the tank, from the pump outlet to the fitting where it passes through the lid and connects to the line from the tank to the engine.

The only flexible sections of the supply and return lines are at the tank and where they pass from the frame to the engine. Unless a PO “engineered” a fix for a broken section of line, the rest of the lines are steel.
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Old Oct 16, 2021 | 2:46 PM
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Gumby...rather than trying to order all parts and etc that may or not fit to ck my fuel line,,,,would it be possible to just get an air gauge and some rubber hosing and a coupla C clamps and hook up fuel line after the fuel filter? If I place a new fuel filter and come off the outlet of the fuel filter with rubbler hose and C clamps to the gauge I could see pressure with key on right? If it holds about 12 lbs or so then fuel pressure prob ok ...is my thinking wrong on this?

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Old Oct 16, 2021 | 3:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Trying2drive
Gumby...rather than trying to order all parts and etc that may or not fit to ck my fuel line,,,,would it be possible to just get an air gauge and some rubber hosing and a coupla C clamps and hook up fuel line after the fuel filter? If I place a new fuel filter and come off the outlet of the fuel filter with rubbler hose and C clamps to the gauge I could see pressure with key on right? If it holds about 12 lbs or so then fuel pressure prob ok ...is my thinking wrong on this?
There’s a couple of problems with the set up you’re describing.

1) An air pressure gauge won’t work to read fuel pressure. The seals inside the gauge will be dissolved by gasoline and will leak. Even if the gas remains within the gauge, the gauge reading will be inaccurate.

2) Placing the gauge at the end of the fuel circuit, without giving the fuel anywhere else to go, will dead head the pump (max out the pumps pressure). There is useful information in checking the dead head pressure but if used with an air pressure gauge, there’s potential for the gauge to burst or the clamps/line to give out. I’ve seen some of these pumps produce 50+ PSI when dead heading and it’s unlikely you’d have any kind of warning that something’s about to give.

3) Checking the system pressure in parallel (using a tee fitting for the gauge) allows you to not only test the pump/supply side of the circuit but also the injectors and regulator/return side. The pump may be fine but an issue with the regulator can just as easily cause the issues you describe, and you’d have to set up a way to test those as well.

The fitting I linked in my earlier post and a fuel pressure gauge are all you need to check pressure. That fitting is available in most national chain parts and/or tool stores (as well as online) either on its own or as part of a test kit.
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Old Oct 17, 2021 | 8:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Gumby22
There’s a couple of problems with the set up you’re describing.

1) An air pressure gauge won’t work to read fuel pressure. The seals inside the gauge will be dissolved by gasoline and will leak. Even if the gas remains within the gauge, the gauge reading will be inaccurate.

2) Placing the gauge at the end of the fuel circuit, without giving the fuel anywhere else to go, will dead head the pump (max out the pumps pressure). There is useful information in checking the dead head pressure but if used with an air pressure gauge, there’s potential for the gauge to burst or the clamps/line to give out. I’ve seen some of these pumps produce 50+ PSI when dead heading and it’s unlikely you’d have any kind of warning that something’s about to give.

3) Checking the system pressure in parallel (using a tee fitting for the gauge) allows you to not only test the pump/supply side of the circuit but also the injectors and regulator/return side. The pump may be fine but an issue with the regulator can just as easily cause the issues you describe, and you’d have to set up a way to test those as well.

The fitting I linked in my earlier post and a fuel pressure gauge are all you need to check pressure. That fitting is available in most national chain parts and/or tool stores (as well as online) either on its own or as part of a test kit.
Thank you very much ....you are very helpful and knowledgeable.......... it is a pleasure to communicate with someone who knows my questions.
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